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Gaara wrote:

Button's retiring

I know they say it's a sabbatical, and I know he has an option for 2018, but yeah he is clearly retiring.

I wonder if his reserve driver contract allows for other forms of racing. If it does, I fully expect Webber to wangle him a drive at Le Mans.

micha wrote:

gkmotorsport wrote:

Anyone else seen Heineken's first F1-themed ad? Considering the obvious issues with a beer company sponsoring something centered on driving, this is quite a brilliant take:

How many other companies advertise their product by showing someone refusing to use it :lol:

Very bold commercial. Good one too

Tast commercial, and actually a good product. Well done, Heineken.

NVirkkula wrote:

micha wrote:

Very bold commercial. Good one too

Tast commercial, and actually a good product. Well done, Heineken.

Come on - "Heineken" and "a good product" don't go together :yuk:

Scorpio wrote:

NVirkkula wrote:

Tast commercial, and actually a good product. Well done, Heineken.

Come on - "Heineken" and "a good product" don't go together :yuk:

In fairness, we are discussing the advert and not anything else that they produce :lol:

NVirkkula wrote:

micha wrote:

Very bold commercial. Good one too

Tast commercial, and actually a good product. Well done, Heineken.

Come on - "Heineken" and "a good product" don't go together :yuk:

I can only imagine the 2018 option exists in case Alonso decides he's had enough at the end of next year. Vandoorne's going nowhere.

I'm not saying it's the beer of my choice or the best beer in the world.

RtN wrote:

I can only imagine the 2018 option exists in case Alonso decides he's had enough at the end of next year. Vandoorne's going nowhere.

AIUI that is precisely what the option is for.

NVirkkula wrote:

I'm not saying it's the beer of my choice or the best beer in the world.

because you know that Carlsberg is probably the best beer in the world

gkmotorsport wrote:

About two decades ago in Finland there was an advert when a man in bad condition came out of bar and said: "I have never drunk milk. And I'm not going to."

Button going I thought would get more lamentation.
It can't just be me and FOM radio guy (who loves picking up a Jenson rant over the overs) who'll really miss him?

I hope he gets as many farewell's as Massa will.
This isn't Mika in 2001, this isn't a sabbatical, this is it, Jenson, you might as well not present it as anything else.

Author:	gkmotorsport [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:18 pm ]
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Gaara wrote: Button's retiring I know they say it's a sabbatical, and I know he has an option for 2018, but yeah he is clearly retiring. I wonder if his reserve driver contract allows for other forms of racing. If it does, I fully expect Webber to wangle him a drive at Le Mans.

Author:	LucasWheldon [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:28 pm ]
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so Vandoorne and Stroll likely to race next year

Author:	Gaara [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:28 pm ]
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gkmotorsport wrote: Gaara wrote: Button's retiring I know they say it's a sabbatical, and I know he has an option for 2018, but yeah he is clearly retiring. I wonder if his reserve driver contract allows for other forms of racing. If it does, I fully expect Webber to wangle him a drive at Le Mans. I hope it does because Webber was trying hard to get him into WEC.

Author:	Scorpio [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:48 pm ]
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NVirkkula wrote: micha wrote: gkmotorsport wrote: Anyone else seen Heineken's first F1-themed ad? Considering the obvious issues with a beer company sponsoring something centered on driving, this is quite a brilliant take: How many other companies advertise their product by showing someone refusing to use it Very bold commercial. Good one too Tast commercial, and actually a good product. Well done, Heineken. Come on - "Heineken" and "a good product" don't go together

Author:	gkmotorsport [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:55 pm ]
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Scorpio wrote: NVirkkula wrote: micha wrote: Very bold commercial. Good one too Tast commercial, and actually a good product. Well done, Heineken. Come on - "Heineken" and "a good product" don't go together In fairness, we are discussing the advert and not anything else that they produce

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Author:	RtN [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:02 pm ]
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I can only imagine the 2018 option exists in case Alonso decides he's had enough at the end of next year. Vandoorne's going nowhere.

Author:	NVirkkula [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:10 pm ]
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gkmotorsport wrote: Scorpio wrote: NVirkkula wrote: Tast commercial, and actually a good product. Well done, Heineken. Come on - "Heineken" and "a good product" don't go together In fairness, we are discussing the advert and not anything else that they produce Now look, it's a bulk beer and everyone who likes beer must compliment micro-breweries only and hate the big guys. But Heineken is the biggest of them. So they're successful and probably rightly so. I'm not saying it's the beer of my choice or the best beer in the world. It's just a good product for the company that makes it. And this commercial is great. And I bet that within a few years it's the beer of choice for many F1 fans because of their influence in the sports. That's the Pavlov's dog effect for the big business. This was written while sipping a Spruce flavored micro-brewery beer made by Rekolan Panimo.

Author:	Cheeveer [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:28 pm ]
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Scorpio wrote: NVirkkula wrote: micha wrote: Very bold commercial. Good one too Tast commercial, and actually a good product. Well done, Heineken. Come on - "Heineken" and "a good product" don't go together haha, yup. Heineken can't make beer, but can obviously make commercials!

Author:	gkmotorsport [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:45 pm ]
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RtN wrote: I can only imagine the 2018 option exists in case Alonso decides he's had enough at the end of next year. Vandoorne's going nowhere. AIUI that is precisely what the option is for.

Author:	LucasWheldon [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:10 pm ]
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NVirkkula wrote: I'm not saying it's the beer of my choice or the best beer in the world. because you know that Carlsberg is probably the best beer in the world

Author:	Gaara [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:20 pm ]
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gkmotorsport wrote: RtN wrote: I can only imagine the 2018 option exists in case Alonso decides he's had enough at the end of next year. Vandoorne's going nowhere. AIUI that is precisely what the option is for. Makes sense, at least then if Alonso should leave then they have an experienced driver and not force the pressure onto Vandoorne.

Author:	NVirkkula [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:21 pm ]
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LucasWheldon wrote: NVirkkula wrote: I'm not saying it's the beer of my choice or the best beer in the world. because you know that Carlsberg is probably the best beer in the world Probably, but my choice is nice micro-brewery stuff, some IPA or the cheapest bulk stuff, depending on the mood. Tonight it's the nicer stuff in moderate quantities...since micro-beer is f*cking expensive in Finland. Like 4 - 5 € for a small bottle from a grocery store.

Author:	kals [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:22 pm ]
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I prefer micro breweries but if someone is offering a free Heineken, then yes please!

Author:	Bleu [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:16 pm ]
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gkmotorsport wrote: Anyone else seen Heineken's first F1-themed ad? Considering the obvious issues with a beer company sponsoring something centered on driving, this is quite a brilliant take: How many other companies advertise their product by showing someone refusing to use it About two decades ago in Finland there was an advert when a man in bad condition came out of bar and said: "I have never drunk milk. And I'm not going to."

Author:	codename_47 [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:19 pm ]
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I suppose, but as I see it this kind of bullshit stopped us giving Hakkinen a proper send off too. I'm going to treat it as a retirement and any Jeff-Gordon-esque reappearance will be a bonus.

Author:	RtN [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:37 pm ]
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Mika's situation was different. He'd had a crap year, and he got hurt again, and he seemed properly fed up with driving. And, even if he had wanted to come back, there was no space to do so. None of those things apply here.

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Author:	NVirkkula [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:44 pm ]
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Bleu wrote: gkmotorsport wrote: Anyone else seen Heineken's first F1-themed ad? Considering the obvious issues with a beer company sponsoring something centered on driving, this is quite a brilliant take: How many other companies advertise their product by showing someone refusing to use it About two decades ago in Finland there was an advert when a man in bad condition came out of bar and said: "I have never drunk milk. And I'm not going to." Lemmy did it better.

Author:	codename_47 [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 8:52 pm ]
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Massa: Now finally he can take the Brazillian Mafia with him that prevents Williams from ever issuing team orders to let the faster Bottas car past to benefit the team, or whatever it was that meant there was always team orders at Williams and it was always in his favour and it always meant the team's overall result suffered as a consequence. Career highlight: Ferrari headbutt wall guy when they realised he hadn't won the title. Bonus: Flip at Hockenheim. Career lowlight: That race in the rain at Silverstone where he drove like a video game player who'd accidentally put it on extreme difficulty mode and spun about 20 times. Oh wait, that was races wasn't it? (2002 and 2008) Bonus: Fernando is faster than you (he'd actually dominated that race, made the better start and was ahead, but this is Ferrari, they don't let their drivers race on track!) Button going I thought would get more lamentation. It can't just be me and FOM radio guy (who loves picking up a Jenson rant over the overs) who'll really miss him? I hope he gets as many farewell's as Massa will. This isn't Mika in 2001, this isn't a sabbatical, this is it, Jenson, you might as well not present it as anything else.

Author:	LucasWheldon [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:10 pm ]
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Williams doesn't use team orders because they're too afraid to do it. or maybe they forgot to put a similar contract from Ferrari stating that "team priorities must be satisfied at all times" they told Massa to let Bottas pass, he said no and they just let go. they also didn't opted to dare to get track position on the race and not even develop the car, now they're facing the consequences

Author:	RtN [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:10 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote: Button going I thought would get more lamentation. It can't just be me and FOM radio guy (who loves picking up a Jenson rant over the overs) who'll really miss him? I hope he gets as many farewell's as Massa will. This isn't Mika in 2001, this isn't a sabbatical, this is it, Jenson, you might as well not present it as anything else. Half of Atlas is almost in mourning. The problem is that it's not a retirement (and I don't think he would have accepted Ron's bullshit offer unless he was very much certain that Alonso was going at some point very soon and that he was first in line when that happened), so no-one is treating it as such. I wouldn't mind if Mercedes gave Felipe a cheat engine for Interlagos, assuming the titles are wrapped up by then. --------------------------------------------- Something to ponder; once Kimi and Alonso retire the oldest driver on the grid will be Lewis.