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| Author: | JJ [ Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:50 pm ] |
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It's all Todt's and Domenicali's fault. I just hope a couple of teams go busted, so I can say "told you so". Then, just maybe, the next CEO will do whatever to raise the team count to 13, and instantly we have 6 seats for junior drivers. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:05 pm ] |
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or make more sprint races in the season, to be ran only by junior drivers and rookies (and occasionaly a Hulkenberg and Kubica to fill in) |
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| Author: | micha [ Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:34 pm ] |
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JJ wrote: It's all Todt's and Domenicali's fault. I just hope a couple of teams go busted, so I can say "told you so". Then, just maybe, the next CEO will do whatever to raise the team count to 13, and instantly we have 6 seats for junior drivers. Knowing F1, the remaining teams will have to run 3 or 4 cars. And then we'll see a domination of 1 team that would make the 7 Mercedes years look exciting and they'll still claim its the best thing ever and make them run yet 2 more cars in the mega-sprint race that will decide the grid for the super-sprint race which will decide the grid for the sprint race which has no effect on the main race because the sprint-qualifying will decide the grid for that one but in a reverse-reverse order. |
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| Author: | JJ [ Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:43 pm ] |
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| Author: | Ospif1 [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:22 am ] |
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LucasWheldon wrote: or make more sprint races in the season, to be ran only by junior drivers and rookies (and occasionaly a Hulkenberg and Kubica to fill in) Wouldn't work in practice though because you would then require more sessions to allow both drivers to get seat time, require two qualy sessions, require different setups and then run the risk of major repairs before Sunday. Costs would skyrocket and would undermine the direction of the sport completely. Adding another 2 teams is the best way forward for the sport IMO. |
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| Author: | Omega [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:38 pm ] |
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The new 2023 calendar has been announced with 24 races. So although they wanted to group some races to avoid traffic, we still go to Miami during European season, to Canada again during European season but a month later. There's a month between the Belgian and Dutch race although they are as good as next to each other. And at the end of the season we go to the US twice, but with stops in Mexico and Brazil in between. And Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Abu Dhabi are also not exactly long travelling distances from one to the other, yet putting them together seemed impossible. 5 March - Bahrain Grand Prix, Sakhir 19 March - Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, Jeddah 2 April - Australian Grand Prix, Albert Park 16 April - Chinese Grand Prix, Shanghai 30 April - Azerbaijan Grand Prix, Baku 7 May - Miami Grand Prix, Miami 21 May - Emilia Romagna Grand Prix, Imola 28 May - Monaco Grand Prix, Monte Carlo 4 June - Spanish Grand Prix, Barcelona 18 June - Canadian Grand Prix, Montreal 2 July - Austrian Grand Prix, Spielberg 9 July - British Grand Prix, Silverstone 23 July - Hungarian Grand Prix, Hungaroring 30 July - Belgian Grand Prix, Spa-Francorchamps 27 August - Dutch Grand Prix, Zandvoort 3 September - Italian Grand Prix, Monza 17 September - Singapore Grand Prix, Marina Bay 24 September - Japanese Grand Prix, Suzuka 8 October - Qatar Grand Prix, Losail 22 October - United States Grand Prix, Austin 29 October - Mexico City Grand Prix, Mexico City 5 November - Sao Paulo Grand Prix, Interlagos 18 November - Las Vegas Grand Prix, Las Vegas 26 November - Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, Yas Marina |
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| Author: | micha [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:41 pm ] |
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About 6 races too many |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 3:54 pm ] |
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so they made the calendar with their asses, nothing new here |
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| Author: | cookie [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:26 pm ] |
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So... fucking... long. You need to be really lucky to have the title fight go down to the wire. The longer the calendar, the less likely it stays close and competitive until the end. If this season had that calendar, we'd still have 7 races after the title is wrapped up (if Verstappen wins it in Singapore). |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:01 pm ] |
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plus Imola, Monaco and Spain doing a triple header. Common sense would put Spain aside for good, put Imola and Monaco back one week to leave the day solely for the Indy 500 and put Miami back to back with Canada (with storms cancelling Miami and making Liberty look like fools) |
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| Author: | JJ [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 5:55 pm ] |
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I feel, for the first time, that I shall only watch selected races next year. So, no French or German Grand Prix but 4(!) races in Middle-East oil tyrannies. Guess that's the first bunch to skip. Surprised to see China back as I thought they wanted to keep their zero-tolerance policy till the end of time. At least Russia is gone for good, though Putin can still start nuclear war and then there will be no F1 ever again. Yeah, that's the spirit. |
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| Author: | trout [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 6:07 pm ] |
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cookie wrote: So... fucking... long. You need to be really lucky to have the title fight go down to the wire. The longer the calendar, the less likely it stays close and competitive until the end. If this season had that calendar, we'd still have 7 races after the title is wrapped up (if Verstappen wins it in Singapore). we just had a fairly long season last year that literally went down to the very last lap, and if this season ended 2 weeks ago at monza the title would have already been decided well before then. logic just isn't on your side for this one. as history has shown us time and again, new rules creates new disparity. the more stable the rules are the more time teams have to equalize any advantages their competitors have (and you could maybe even argue that more races gives you more opportunities to develop the car). f1 is going through a metamorphasis at the moment, and i see these new rules and the upcoming 2026 rules as positive changes that will ultimately make it easier for the bottom teams to eventually grow closer to the top teams. under the current rule package we should eventually have a closer title fight and then a reset in 2026; so hopefully the 2026 regs will be allowed to play out for the next 10yrs or so (electrification might spoil that party tho). |
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| Author: | Vassago [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:55 pm ] |
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Spa in July?  That's the first time Belgian GP will be held in this month since it was May/June until 1987 and then August/September since 1988. It was held once in April too.
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| Author: | Ospif1 [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:15 pm ] |
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There would be serious risk of travelling personnel burning out with that schedule, but they have been eased into it over the last few years. Perhaps it's just me but having this many races has begun to reduce the excitement of each GP weekend and they feel less important than they did when we had far fewer races because the percentage of points on offer was much higher. Good for us at work though, more races = more coolers |
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| Author: | Juihi [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 9:41 pm ] |
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Almost worth the teams having multiple staff so they can have them on shifts per race, as that's a full on schedule! |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:03 pm ] |
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Ospif1 wrote: There would be serious risk of travelling personnel burning out with that schedule, but they have been eased into it over the last few years. Perhaps it's just me but having this many races has begun to reduce the excitement of each GP weekend and they feel less important than they did when we had far fewer races because the percentage of points on offer was much higher. Good for us at work though, more races = more coolers You say that, but I've just found out there's no race this weekend and I'm FURIOUS  Vassago wrote: Spa in July? That's the first time Belgian GP will be held in this month since it was May/June until 1987 and then August/September since 1988. It was held once in April too.Well don't forget, we had a wet weekend at Spa last year, so it must be PUNISHED I'm sure they did some weather chart and realised July was the dryest month, so off it fucks to that date |
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| Author: | amq55 [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 10:51 pm ] |
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Vassago wrote: Spa in July? That's the first time Belgian GP will be held in this month since it was May/June until 1987 and then August/September since 1988. It was held once in April too.It is actually scheduled for the same weekend as the Spa 24, so SRO has some wiggling to do. |
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| Author: | peterohanrahanrahan [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:23 pm ] |
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I'd ditch Qatar (shit track), China and Imola (shit tracks where things only happen when it's wet), COTA (3 races in America is overkill and once again, COTA is shit) and finally, I understand why it's there, but Zandvoort, short of giving a few orange lunatics a hard on, is a waste of a track for F1 cars. |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:38 pm ] |
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Ospif1 wrote: Perhaps it's just me but having this many races has begun to reduce the excitement of each GP weekend and they feel less important than they did when we had far fewer races because the percentage of points on offer was much higher. Good for us at work though, more races = more coolers No it isn't just you. After going nearly 25 years without missing watching a race live (dodgy Chanel 9 in Australia delays aside), I haven't even bothered with watching the Canadian, US, Brazilian or Mexican GP's in the last couple of years. Hell, I just watch the 5 minute YouTube highlights. Have no interest in even watching a replay. I've long thought that maybe it is just me, as I get older, I am not as invested as I once was. But then I see quite a few other comments that are like mine and I realize that no, other people feel the same as me. F1 is no longer an EVENT. It is just a thing that is on (now) every other week. |
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| Author: | peterohanrahanrahan [ Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:50 am ] |
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I just discovered France and Russia are gone from the schedule, so, small win there at least. cookie wrote: The longer the calendar, the less likely it stays close and competitive until the end. If this season had that calendar, we'd still have 7 races after the title is wrapped up (if Verstappen wins it in Singapore). Quadrupple points awarded at final race to be confirmed  Verstappen blows it out enough this season F1 might consider it, or a chase style format 
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