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| Author: | kals [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:53 pm ] |
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gkmotorsport wrote: kals wrote: UTTER BLASPHEMY! The B189 was NOT a slow F1 car!!!   Yes it was! It qualified in Suzuka with a 1:41.103, but last year's pole there was 1:30.915 . Ergo, it is barely even an F1 car at all! (Am I doing this right? )You're doing it perfectly 
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| Author: | ptclaus98 [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:01 pm ] |
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Sweet melts on the last page. |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:44 pm ] |
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Happy to see rbr still failing |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:00 pm ] |
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Excuse the typos, but here's a good piece by Racecar Engineering about the prospect of two new teams next year http://www.racecar-engineering.com/blog ... n-in-2015/ |
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| Author: | StanV [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:19 pm ] |
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Fabs wrote: Happy to see rbr still failing h8er |
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| Author: | Gabriel [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:59 pm ] |
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worst |
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| Author: | micha [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:04 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: Excuse the typos, but here's a good piece by Racecar Engineering about the prospect of two new teams next year http://www.racecar-engineering.com/blog ... n-in-2015/ Please let this be true |
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| Author: | Gabriel [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:35 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: Excuse the typos, but here's a good piece by Racecar Engineering about the prospect of two new teams next year http://www.racecar-engineering.com/blog ... n-in-2015/ That guy needs to seriously learn to write articles. Or anything for that matter |
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| Author: | Fabs [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:12 pm ] |
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StanV wrote: Fabs wrote: Happy to see rbr still failing h8er just being honost |
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| Author: | Speedworx [ Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:38 pm ] |
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Some funny stuff going on here. Is testing really that boring? |
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| Author: | Jason [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:21 am ] |
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Giving thanks are still likes tbh. |
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| Author: | James B [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:48 am ] |
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Gabriel wrote: phil1993 wrote: Excuse the typos, but here's a good piece by Racecar Engineering about the prospect of two new teams next year http://www.racecar-engineering.com/blog ... n-in-2015/ That guy needs to seriously learn to write articles. Or anything for that matter If it's the guy I believe it to be, amazingly he has written a couple of books It upsets me that there are better writers out there struggling to get a break while that sort of stuff gets churned out for money |
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| Author: | Mäth [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:32 am ] |
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StefMeister wrote: Mäth wrote: Still trying to guess how these cars will sound from onboard http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/02/19/m ... video-w05/ Oh thanks Stef ! This is going into my GP4  :E// I just compared this to my "V6 from V8" Mercedes sound, and damn I'm close ! It needs more depth, but that's it ! My theories weren't very bad after all
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| Author: | Artur Craft [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 4:31 am ] |
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phil1993 wrote: alex1369 wrote: If they can get close 2 or 3 sec of last years times ill be happy, but not this year  They will get down to those times. We're already only 4.7 off of the pole time from last year's race at this very early stage. They're still not going for times, the track is dirty, the tyres are new and harder, the cars have lost downforce and the power units are still quite unknown. Everyone knows how a track such as Bahrain gets much quicker during Q1 for example as you have 22 cars on track at once with good tyres. Here you have 11 cars on track at varying times of the day. It's not as straight forward as that. It was very often that laptimes during Barcelona winter tests were quicker than pole times from the same year(like 1.19 at winter testings and 1.20 pole even with more developed cars). There is a very significant factor : temperature. Lower temps means more air density which leads to more downforce, and that's a direct relation, ie, if the air is x times more dense, it will lead to x times more downforce. Temperatures during the first day at Bahrain started at "16.7C, and track temperature is 28.9C"(according to autosport live coverage) and peaked at 20C but were around 17-18C most of the time. According to f1.com, the temperature was 33C during the whole period of qualifying, last year. So we have a 15C difference which accounts for an increase of 5% in air density and therefore downforce. The thing is, we will only have 2-3(or even less) difference from last year to this year's cars if the engine power is really that of what was speculated some weeks ago(it was said Mercedes combustion engine alone was approaching 700hp which would lead to over 850hp of total power). On average, 10HP account for some 3 tenths of laptime, so the 2014 cars could be gaining around 3 seconds on the 2013 ones. This would cut off many of the "slowing down" factors of 2014 cars such as : more weight, less downforce, harder tyres. If the PUs total power is that what was expected before, ie, about the same power we had in 2013(730-750HP), then the gap will really be at least 4 or 5 seconds, there is no magic. PS: another thing to keep in mind, we don't know if the track is exactly in same conditions as last year. Minor changes to the track can make it quite faster/slower. So, take these times with a pinch of salt and the only hope for a 2 s gap relies on the 2014 engines significantly surpassing the previous engine's power. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:15 am ] |
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Bullshit..... You're comparing the first day of the second test with new engines where the teams are too shit scared to run them at anything like full power yet with the height of the out-spend your rivals era where the teams could test privately and had no restrictions to running around their own test track if they so desired. Lets wait until the final day of the third test before practicing. Or to qualifying in Melbourne where the teams will have no choice but to show their hand. It's not going to be pretty in the short term, but before the next drastic rule change (who knows when that'll be though) I'm sure the teams will be so far away from "OMG engines not working" and into "OMG these cars too fast again we must slow them down, for safety!" as happens EVERY TIME, that we'll be looking back on this as a curious anomaly and not a new status quo for the sport. |
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| Author: | webbsy [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
Just noticed the off center positioning of the Lotus exhaust pipe. Appears to be on the same side as the crash tusk on the front nose. |
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| Author: | Shaddix [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
Seems like STR now have the Renault unit under control. They already did 46 laps and their fastest lap is a decent one. |
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| Author: | Cheeveer [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2014 Random F1 Discussion |
Scotty wrote: His theory is right, in terms of the air density/temperature correlation. However, he is also wrong, as testing means three fifths of fuck all. How many tests in the last, however many years, have we seen the team who would go on to be champions dominate testing? Zero. 2009 is the only time I can think of. |
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| Author: | Tobias [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:14 am ] |
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I am happy to see Renault running as it should be, or at least putting in some mileage. I want to see RBR beaten, but in a fight on track. Not because of some lame and persistent mechanical issues. Ferrari running well in the hands of Alonso
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| Author: | Caspar [ Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:26 am ] |
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Forza Ferrari. The best. |
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