TBK-Light.com

Motorsport videos and chat.
It is currently Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:57 am

All times are UTC+01:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 2816 posts ]  Go to page Previous 179 80 81 82 83141 Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:29 pm 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:08 pm
Posts: 4281
Location: 1980s
Has thanked: 667 times
Been thanked: 190 times
I'm surprised he never tried starting a champ car team back around 2006 to 2007 when the shit really started going there.


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:06 am 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:54 pm
Posts: 3171
Has thanked: 324 times
Been thanked: 338 times
Quote:
Daniil Kvyat closing in on Toro Rosso extension


After Palmer and Erricson he is next on my list of "why is he still in F1?"

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/199 ... -extension


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:58 am 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:21 am
Posts: 6432
Has thanked: 414 times
Been thanked: 658 times
I'm not sure what Kvyat is more proof of, that a decent driver can become mediocre if he's not mentally strong enough to handle a major setback, or that a mediocre driver can easily challenge for podiums if he's in a good car.

_________________
Image


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 5:48 am 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:08 pm
Posts: 4281
Location: 1980s
Has thanked: 667 times
Been thanked: 190 times
Philthy82 wrote:
I'm not sure what Kvyat is more proof of, that a decent driver can become mediocre if he's not mentally strong enough to handle a major setback, or that a mediocre driver can easily challenge for podiums if he's in a good car.


I think it's easier for a decent driver to become mediocre or even totally "shit". There's so many examples...

But was Kvyat ever a decent F1 driver? :wave:


Top
   
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 12:41 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:00 am
Posts: 8812
Location: Paris
Has thanked: 631 times
Been thanked: 842 times
I was going to say that we should adjust for inflation, but come to think of it, experience is an integral part of what makes people Great.


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:34 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:08 am
Posts: 6260
Location: Birmingham, UK
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 434 times
Sky are reporting that as expected Silverstone have triggered the break clause in there contract from 2019.


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:37 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:22 pm
Posts: 93985
Location: New ribs please...
Has thanked: 399 times
Been thanked: 1357 times
Being reported everywhere. 2019 last GP unless a new deal is agreed.


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:25 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:08 am
Posts: 6260
Location: Birmingham, UK
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 434 times
F1 Group/Liberty not impressed with the BRDC handling of things it seems.

Quote:
The week leading up to the British Grand Prix should be a week of great celebration for F1 and Silverstone.

We deeply regret that Silverstone has chosen instead to use this week to posture and position themselves and invoke a break clause that will take effect in three years' time.

We offered to extend the current deadlines in order to focus on everything that is great about Silverstone and Formula 1.

Regretfully the Silverstone management has chosen to look for a short-term advantage to benefit their position.

Our focus is still to preserve the British Grand Prix, We will carry on negotiating with the promoter in good faith and in private to reach a fair and equitable solution.


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:38 pm 
Offline
Silver Member
Silver Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:23 pm
Posts: 1023
Has thanked: 75 times
Been thanked: 56 times
Since when is Liberty cslled the F1 Group?

The timing is fully understandable.


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:04 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:51 pm
Posts: 8057
Has thanked: 1465 times
Been thanked: 428 times
What did Liberty expect them to do? It's quiet clear the contract runs at a loss and the only way out of it for them had to be triggered by tomorrow or they were stuck in a continuously increasing loss making contract for the next decade which would have bankrupted the circuit and seen it sold off for housing, and they're 'disappointed', wtf Liberty?

Bring your shitty product to the docks if you want (London Docklands for those unaware) and get the Mayor to fund it if you want, but you'll probably end up with two races before it becomes an election pain for Sadiq and you're left to go back to Silverstone cap in hand. (Oh and most people in East London don't have two pennies to rub together so don't expect it to be a well attended event).


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:12 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:00 am
Posts: 8812
Location: Paris
Has thanked: 631 times
Been thanked: 842 times
It's understandable from the promoters point of view. From Liberty's point of view, I understand they would feel like they're being pressured or hijacked, especially since they seem keen on improving their (and F1's) image towards the public, so being put in the position to be the "bad guy" against the British GP may be unpleasant. I don't know, there's a lot I don't know about this case.

EDIT:

Quote:
the contract runs at a loss

Sounds like this was the key fact I missed :lol:


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:29 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:51 pm
Posts: 8057
Has thanked: 1465 times
Been thanked: 428 times
They've lossed something like £6Mill on the last two years alone, there's no way what is essentially a private members club can continue to rack up those losses for the next decade and expect to survive, they were stupid to sign the original contract in the first place but that's a discussion for another day.


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:50 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:08 am
Posts: 6260
Location: Birmingham, UK
Has thanked: 13 times
Been thanked: 434 times
There's also a report that Honda have pulled out of there agreement to supply Sauber with engines for next year.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/thebuxtonblog/status/884776273083592704[/tweet]


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:47 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 1:12 am
Posts: 8245
Has thanked: 157 times
Been thanked: 566 times
If that's true they're pulling out of F1 completely


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:57 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:22 pm
Posts: 93985
Location: New ribs please...
Has thanked: 399 times
Been thanked: 1357 times
Yeaa and I wouldn't be in the least bit surprised.


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:32 pm 
Offline
Founder of the Yaytree
Founder of the Yaytree
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:27 pm
Posts: 28347
Location: Birmingham, UK (Not near DEGA :( )
Has thanked: 1312 times
Been thanked: 1887 times
Healthy Sport.

_________________
RIP Birmingham Wheels: here's some of the crash videos I recorded when it was there:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIaKIE ... 5t9d5PvoHA

Twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/paulhadsley


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:36 pm 
Offline
Official TBK Rain Predictor
Official TBK Rain Predictor
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:18 pm
Posts: 15459
Location: Quite rainy Antwerp
Has thanked: 295 times
Been thanked: 495 times
What a failure


Top
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 10:59 pm 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:08 pm
Posts: 4281
Location: 1980s
Has thanked: 667 times
Been thanked: 190 times
Say hello to the future Stefan GP. :twisted:


Top
   
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:10 am 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:54 pm
Posts: 3171
Has thanked: 324 times
Been thanked: 338 times
And how much money did Silverstone spend on the stupid and utterly useless track reconfiguration? Hell, they couldn't even build the pit lane correctly. They can't just blame the shitty contract they signed, it was that coupled with trying to compete with government funded circuits like Bahrain etc and build out flashy whiz bang facilities that cost an arm and a leg and seemingly bring little in tangible benefits.


Top
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 3:56 am 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:54 pm
Posts: 3171
Has thanked: 324 times
Been thanked: 338 times
Scotty wrote:
Ian-S wrote:
They've lossed something like £6Mill on the last two years alone, there's no way what is essentially a private members club can continue to rack up those losses for the next decade and expect to survive, they were stupid to sign the original contract in the first place but that's a discussion for another day.


Aus GP is losing $30-$40m a year and is projected to lose around $60m a year in 2-3 years time. They dropped the ticket prices by about 15% during this period too

This is Bernie's legacy. Charging exorbitant amounts of money to race organisers for the privilege of holding an F1 race. Bernie always had the threat that other countries willing to spend more for the right, that traditional races were disposable. Spa was on the verge of being kicked off the calendar for what seemed 20 years (and was at one point).

Now that threat is fading, Korea gone, India gone, Turkey gone, Malaysia going, Germany gone race organisers are fighting to lower their rates. Germany did, now they're back.

F1 could lose a lot of money for the sake of keeping traditional races. I'm guessing they want 23-24 races on the calendar to recoup these losses.



Quote:
Aus GP is losing $30-$40m a year and is projected to lose around $60m a year in 2-3 years time


Bloody hell, I had no idea it was that much. I always thought that it bought in about $100m a year in economic benefits....at least that's what the Government used to say.

Can't see it staying much longer if they are bleeding that much money.


Top
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 2816 posts ]  Go to page Previous 179 80 81 82 83141 Next

All times are UTC+01:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 35 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited