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RtN · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:55 pm

Shaddix wrote:

It's not a conspiracy for a very simple reason. Do you guys think that Sauber expected to be in this position? I don't think so. So why would they have talked before the race about "coded" messages for these kind of situations? I don't think so.

The counter to that is that Sauber found themselves with a car in second and catching Alonso with, what was it, 25 laps to go?

It wouldn't be too hard for Ferrari to send a senior person down to the team to tell them what the score was.

They could even do it via text message if they wanted.

Fox · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:57 pm

Watching the Race again and I think Perez move was that he was the first who pitted for Full Wets in the Top 10.

Shaddix · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:57 pm

RtN wrote:

Shaddix wrote:

It's not a conspiracy for a very simple reason. Do you guys think that Sauber expected to be in this position? I don't think so. So why would they have talked before the race about "coded" messages for these kind of situations? I don't think so.

The counter to that is that Sauber found themselves with a car in second and catching Alonso with, what was it, 25 laps to go?

It wouldn't be too hard for Ferrari to send a senior person down to the team to tell them what the score was.

They could even do it via text message if they wanted.

Yeh but that was not what I ment.

How would they have made the message clear to Sergio without raising suspicion at the FIA who listens to every radiocall? It had to be a coded message. But I doubt they have coded messages for these kind of exceptional circumstances.

Scirocco · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:58 pm

Perez was simply amazing but I think Alonso drove one of his best races to be honest. Both men equally deserve much credit for there drives today though. Don't forget Senna as well who was last at the end of lap 1 and finished 6th. It's so deserving for a Williams team who have gone leaps and bounds from where they were last year! Fantastic race.

SirVanhan · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:59 pm

Shaddix wrote:

It's not a conspiracy for a very simple reason. Do you guys think that Sauber expected to be in this position? I don't think so. So why would they have talked before the race about "coded" messages for these kind of situations? I don't think so.

They can use telephones or just walk into the garage. Jean Todt walked a lot through the pitlane back in the days!

Shaddix · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:00 pm

SirVanhan wrote:

Shaddix wrote:

It's not a conspiracy for a very simple reason. Do you guys think that Sauber expected to be in this position? I don't think so. So why would they have talked before the race about "coded" messages for these kind of situations? I don't think so.

They can use telephones or just walk into the garage. Jean Todt walked a lot through the pitlane back in the days!

Like I said, I'm talking about the message to Sergio.

Not sure the message "be carefull, we need this position" would be enough to stop Sergio battling for the win.

RtN · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:02 pm

Shaddix wrote:

SirVanhan wrote:

Shaddix wrote:

It's not a conspiracy for a very simple reason. Do you guys think that Sauber expected to be in this position? I don't think so. So why would they have talked before the race about "coded" messages for these kind of situations? I don't think so.

They can use telephones or just walk into the garage. Jean Todt walked a lot through the pitlane back in the days!

Like I said, I'm talking about the message to Sergio.

Not sure the message "be carefull, we need this position" would be enough to stop Sergio battling for the win.

Which is where inducing the mistake would come in, in theory.

Would also explain his slowing down after the error. 'Sergio, slow right down, you nearly parked it once already.'

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:03 pm

Also, having to rely on the useless SkyF1 team for the whole race, what happened to Kobayashi?

Tobias · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:04 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Also, having to rely on the useless SkyF1 team for the whole race, what happened to Kobayashi?

don't they bring 84 people with them to a race? You'd imagine it being the best and most knowledgeable tv crew in the paddock, no?

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:06 pm

Tobias wrote:

phil1993 wrote:

Also, having to rely on the useless SkyF1 team for the whole race, what happened to Kobayashi?

don't they bring 84 people with them to a race? You'd imagine it being the best and most knowledgeable tv crew in the paddock, no?

Too busy being arses towards others apparently.

RtN · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:06 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Also, having to rely on the useless SkyF1 team for the whole race, what happened to Kobayashi?

His retirement? Fuck knows.

General lack of performance? Dodgy set-up caused by a broken suspension piece in qualifying, compounded by traffic in the race and burning the inters too quickly. Shoddy weekend.

Fergo · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:07 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Oh, and for Indy fans Sky has put the St. Pete race on the red button. Nice way to treat your SkyGo customers. Wankers.

http://www.skysports.com/video/tv/0,25316,6,00.html

It'll be on Sky Sports Xtra on that link, they just said on twitter.

webbsy · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:14 pm

Everybody just fuck right off with this conspiracy theory shit....if anyone would have said that they would be hunting down a Ferrari for a win they would have laughed at them. THEY DO need those points. To throw that away in a stupid overtaking move against a guy like Fernando who would have been saying to himself "This Ferrari is a piece of shit and this is my only realistic chance at a victory in the near future....you are gonna have to earn it Perez" is just mind numbingly stupid.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:14 pm

Loving it

Shaddix · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:18 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Loving it

You're late, I posted that a couple of hours ago

StefMeister · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:19 pm

phil1993 wrote:

Oh, and for Indy fans Sky has put the St. Pete race on the red button. Nice way to treat your SkyGo customers. Wankers.

It will still be avaliable online via Sky Sports Xtra, SkyGo customers are able to view that.

http://www.skysports.com/Xtra

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:21 pm

Shaddix wrote:

You're late, I posted that a couple of hours ago

Sorry, didn't go on the forum until after the race!

DinoMarko93 · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:27 pm

Going out of Turn 14 is not the place where you want to make a mistake intentionally,because the turn is very hard to take off the ideal line,and gravel is nearest,few meteres and Sergio would have been the thrid driver to retire from todays race... If he wanted to do it intentionally,he could just run wide in turn 4.

phil1993 · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:27 pm

Hurr
http://www.f1zone.net/news/angry-vettel ... ber/13262/

Philthy82 · PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:44 pm

Bit of a pickle Narain's in isn't it? Or maybe Vettel's just being a dill.

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