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I came to the conclusion that whoever wins this championship doesn't deserve it.
Drivers made too many mistakes, both Hamilton and Massa.
I miss the Schumacher-Hakkinen years, that was some serious driving...looks like now every time they are under pressure they fail, Hamilton probably for his age, Massa because he doesn't have the class of a world champion.

They where at eachothers side just before the corner.


When you spun out yourself with Bourdais on the inside you do.

The 2007 champion is the worst one in history

Good point, but there is a space for a car there... not much, but there is.

I still keep my opinion that on this particular incident, Webber was to blame.

What? There was no incident. Massa took the inside, that was not the decision of Webber and then Webber did a few pushes to the right probably in an attempt to push himn onto the dirtiest line so he would need to brake earlier for the following corner, a good strategy which has worked for him in the past (SPA 07).

Massa put himself in the dangerous position, webber doing his few borks did not increase the dangerous situation massa had put himself in.

Then again for me it was just good hard racing.

If there was a car leaving the pits at that same moment there would have been a huge crash, You can't go over those striped patches. Alonso got a 10.000€ fine in Valencia for going over them during free practice!

because Alonso's performance was more impressive probably. And the fact Webbers drive went completely unnoticed, no matter how good it was.

I REALLY want to see an onboard from the start when he went from dead last in T1 to 10th after a handful of laps.

It was fun to watch, but I'm not too comfortable with pushes into the pitlane at 300 km/h, it could end in tears and blood. With the penalty-happy mood of the stewards lately, I'm surprised Webber didn't get a warning.

It was one of those moves that didn't clearly break any rules, but are dangerous enough to get a couple words from Charlie Whiting, IMO. And I believe pushing someone at 300km/h is a more dangerous thing that positioning yourself in an open space (even if small) at 300km/h.

Webber was defensive...Massa chose to go in a closing gap.
Good old MW, he never goes down without a fight.

Aye. Had Massa been alongside when Webber suddenly moved across then it would have been dodgy, but it was Felipe's decision to go for the gap as Mark was already over to the right when Massa made the move. He could just as easily have gone outside and looped around him that way.

Alonso

7

I could have deducted 3 points for 3 stupid meaningless undeserved penalties, but I didn't.

8. Expected a dull race, missed the first 10 laps becouse I overslept but a very good race!

Seriously, i dont know why people have to complain about the Webber and Massa battle. It was just hard racing. Everything is taken too soft these days.

Thats strange, because he was on a 1 stop stradegy, which would of been really unlikely. Maybe he cut a chicane somewhere

Dunno if this has been posted before but here's good amature footage of Lewis's second slip up in the first lap.



www.darcyf1.com/barre/0108.avi

Races manipulated by race stewards will be rated 1 from now on.

I cannot tolerate this behaviour anymore!

My god he's lucky there aren't many gravel traps around anymore.

Nice find barre

Funny how some Japanese fans are still waving their Super Aguri flags

if Massa stayed on the outside he could have been run into by a gripless Webber being on the inside ensured he had the corner. Why is this even up for debate. It was a good overtaking move and hard racing.
Webber blocked overzealously sure but why is everyone surprised he nearly put Alonso into the Suzuka pitwall in 2005.