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Who will lead the Drivers Championship after the Japanese GP?
Poll ended at Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:53 am
Lewis HAMILTON 64%  64%  [ 21 ]
Nico ROSBERG 36%  36%  [ 12 ]
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That Marshall is incredibly lucky not to get the Sauber on him.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:43 pm 
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Something else that's been overlooked a bit today is that Gerard Saillant is heading to Japan tomorrow


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We are moaning so much about Full Course Caution Periods in Indycar and Nascar when a single car stranded somewhere but F1 should think about to introduce it.

Its already bad enough but he could have killed some Marshalls too.Look at the Marshall on the right side of the Tractor :ohmy:


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i've watched it again in slowmotion, trying to put emotion aside and look at the details. At first i hoped his helmet just slide under the tractor and the big hit was between the rollbar and the tractor but i'm pretty sure i can say he went full head on into it ( still have no clue on how rigid is that part of the tractor, it may be just a very thin cover aswell as thick full steel ), i think you can see his head "bounce back" in the contact. Than the rollbar hits, gets strapped away and makes the tractor jump up. Best chance is if he hits only in the top part of the helmet ( wich is only helmet, i guess it must be thick a inch or two ) but still at that speed you cant really have a clue on how a shock wave travel trough your head no matter how the impact was. it's pure chance we are talkin about here. It's still amazing that the helmet held togheter after such an impact anyway


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It's hard to watch, I saw sometimes and I can't believe how hard is the crash. All rollbar destroyed... It's hard

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I've found a gif where you can see that his head hits the tractor.

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the more i see it the more i'm getting prepared for the worst


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The cameraman seeing on the left has probably the footage of how bianchi lost control.
I dont think he has got the actual impact footage because his camera doenst go as far to the right to the tractor.


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Not sure if anyone noticed the cameraman at the very bottom - not sure which feed that would have been, but he caught it from the moment Bianchi spun... we can't be sure if he was quick enough to capture the contact, but I shudder to think how hard to watch that video would be anyway.

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That's pretty much how I imagined things must have happened from various sources' reporting. Fucking awful.

I had to go past Marussia HQ today to get my car serviced. Trucks everywhere with big satellites on their roof. The place itself just looked empty. Usually there's plenty of light and movement going on that you can see when you drive past, but today it just looked closed.


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Can someone upload it on YouTube and make it private so only the people that have the link (tbk users) can view it?

Dailymotion?

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With the tractor rolling back there was even more force that affected Jules car.


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Could there be a technical malfunction on the car? There seems to be so much speed. Or do you guys recon he just lost the car?


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Probably just lost it. He was on inters on a very wet circuit, and those tyres might have been old too.

I think it has been reported that he lost it through Dunlop, corrected it and then went straight on through the gravel.


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micha wrote:
Could there be a technical malfunction on the car? There seems to be so much speed. Or do you guys recon he just lost the car?


If you check these pics it looks like as if he just understeered towards the edge of the track.

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If you look at the speed he had it would have been a monster crash even without the tractor.
Of course it would have been quite a different outcome but still.


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if he gets away without sequels, it'll be the luckiest driver since Andrea Montermini in 1994

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Echti wrote:
If you look at the speed he had it would have been a monster crash even without the tractor.
Of course it would have been quite a different outcome but still.


Exactly what I was thinking.

I wonder if Jules would have gone right into the "door" of the tyrewall (I mean, the open space which is the gate for the tractor to reach the track).
I don't know where he would have finished, but maybe crashing in a concrete wall after, or something like that, or even hitting a marshall, we won't know.

But when I look this horrific accident, I just wonder how he could be still alive. It's just already a "miracle", even it won't help a lot.

Oh god, it's just horrible...

EDIT: and t add to this, the deceleration is quite brutal too. We can see Jules was going very fast, and the car is stopped in something like 4 meters.


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Damn! Just what I feared!


Don't know for sure that people outside The Netherlands can view it but here's alsoi a link to the crash.

WARNING!!! Including slowmotion
http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/6619993/e2683a2f/bianchi_crash_formule_1_japan.html

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