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"So Fernando, what do you make that people thought your race wasn't that good"
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:04 pm ] |
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Only two really - Webber/Massa and Perez/Grosjean. Both caused by drivers being able to rejoin the track at full speed. Kind of pointless talking about Rosberg's crash because that just takes us back to the age old tarmac vs. gravel debate. |
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| Author: | viXious [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:15 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: "So Fernando, what do you make that people thought your race wasn't that good" [spoiler] [/spoiler]Couldn't resist...
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Formula 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS DESTRUCTION DHABI |
phil1993 wrote: EsbenT wrote: phil1993 wrote: And someone with more technical knowledge than me - will this drive by Vettel make RBR rethink their strategy regarding set-up? Are you thinking with regards to the different level of downforce he was running in order to facilitate easier overtaking? Indeed. It's not as though there usual strategy has been unsuccessful since 2009. |
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| Author: | kals [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:19 pm ] |
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I thoroughly object to what RBR were allowed to do by starting from the pitlane. I know it is in the rules, but under normal circumstances teams are only allowed to remove cars from the parc ferme and make changes to that car if there is an issue or a safety concern. RBR were given a post quali penalty for a rules infringement and yet were then permitted to make wholesale set up changes which meant the penalty served as an advantage. |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:33 pm ] |
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Yeaa, I don't think that should be allowed. It's like changing tyres under a red flag. |
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| Author: | kals [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:42 pm ] |
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Or rebuilding the rear end of your car, then changing tyres... |
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| Author: | BrainPain [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Formula 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS Abu Dhabi Grand Prix |
phil1993 wrote: Oh, and to everyone who thinks Vettel is lucky. Yeah, okay... Yeah, he was definately the definition of lucky the whole race today. |
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| Author: | a7b7u [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:56 pm ] |
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phil1993 wrote: And someone with more technical knowledge than me - will this drive by Vettel make RBR rethink their strategy regarding set-up? Hamilton's car was also short geared as he hit the rev limiter quite hard in the pole lap. That sort of proves that the shorter gear ratio was generally quicker around the Abu Dhabi circuit. As long as you do not have to fight trough dozens of midfield cars, the lack of top speed by the shorter gear ratio gets compensated by the higher agility out of the corners. No need to rethink setup strategies for RBR as long as they qualify high. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:58 pm ] |
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I also thoroughly object to 5 hour delays between qualifying finishing and penalties being handed out. And Stop-go penalties for once incident when others had at least 2 and got away without even a drive through was a bit random as well. Ho-hum, its the FIA, gloriously consistent in their inconsistency...nothing new there. |
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| Author: | Regiotap [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:16 pm ] |
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Maybe they need to change the parc ferme rule. Let teams to be free in using qualifying and race setups. That will be a lot better. When it rains every car is undriveable now. Let teams be free to change the car after qualifying. |
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| Author: | kals [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:20 pm ] |
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And also bring Sunday morning warm up at that. |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:42 pm ] |
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Indeed, would be a great way to fill the boring 2 hour gap between the Porsche race and the F1 Race if it was brought back. I know Bernie, for some reason, specifically demands those 2 hours in race contracts but more entertainment for fans on track can't be a bad thing now can it? |
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| Author: | Gaara [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:46 pm ] |
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It's stupid to have two hours of nothingness. |
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| Author: | kals [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:53 pm ] |
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Pre-Pirelli two hours of nothingness was better know as F1 |
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| Author: | codename_47 [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:27 am ] |
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kals wrote: Pre-Pirelli two hours of nothingness was better know as F1 Oh-ho! He's on fire tonight! These days its known as two DTM races or half a NASCAR race.... |
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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:47 am ] |
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Scotty wrote: I love Kimi (hate his fans) but I was amused by this Average Finish in 2012 Raikkonen 5.2 Vettel 5.4 Alonso 5.5 Kimi has completed every single lap this year with only Chinese GP being pointless to him. Vettel and Alonso both have retired and got their average lowered. But yes, Kimi has been amazing this year, reliable and fast enough to fight for podiums. |
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| Author: | Tobias [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:45 am ] |
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kals wrote: And also bring Sunday morning warm up at that. this, totally |
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| Author: | Juihi [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:49 am ] |
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codename_47 wrote: Indeed, would be a great way to fill the boring 2 hour gap between the Porsche race and the F1 Race if it was brought back. I know Bernie, for some reason, specifically demands those 2 hours in race contracts but more entertainment for fans on track can't be a bad thing now can it? The reason for it is if there is a bad crash in a support race then 2 hours should in theory be enough to get everything sorted for the F1 race which afterall is the draw card event for the weekend |
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| Author: | ellis [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:55 am ] |
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Morning Warm-Up also means parc ferme rules have to go, and then costs go up. F1 races also have an abnormally long setup time. The pit lane opens a good 30 minutes before the race. If you're at a race and can't cope with 2 hours of not much to do, then you'd hate going to races like Le Mans where you have entire days of nothing to do before sessions. |
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| Author: | phil1993 [ Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:03 am ] |
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I remember reading recently that as there were crap support races at Singapore in 2008, Bernie bought about 15 Fiat 500s but forgot to hire any drivers and ended up sending some journalists in the cars 
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