A considerable minute of the rest of that lap is spent not on wide open throttle. Either via cornering or braking. So for the majority of the lap the cars are accelerating forward, its 750hp.



This isn't guessing. What I did, during testing, was calculate the %age increase of top speed from Bahrain testing, compared it to the GP in 2013, and factored that difference into Monza speed trap speeds. There was an error, but iirc, the increase calculated to around 365km/h this year. The post where I calculated this exists but isn't on hand at the moment. Predicting the future is a guess not backed up by numbers, but F1 teams have had 6 months with this technology. Wait 6 years they'll be up a lot more from what they are now.



Of F1 cars? Or supercars? There is only a finite amount of development that can be done with naturally aspirated, internal combustion non-hybrid engines. They've been around for 160 years. The pinnacle of technology is moving away from this archaic technology and moving forward, in my opinion anyway.

Yeah but the past was always better. The future sucks.

The technology aspect is underappreciated. V10 and V12's are fun and so, but they aren't relevant in a world where motorsport have to justify itself more and more.

The thing is, that I really REALLY don't remember anyone having the same complaints with Indycar's switch to turbo charged power units from the start of 2012. I know F1 has a larger global reach and popularity, but on this forum it is still a hugely followed form of motorsport. Barely any complaints were registered.

That's a good point ellis. What that shows also is that noise isn't as relevant a complaint as people perceive it to be. People loved CART and never once complained that engines weren't noisy enough. But seeing as we've had 10'ish years if these ugly screamers, suddenly quieter engines are extremely offensive to F1 fans.

That's a good point ellis. What that shows also is that noise isn't as relevant a complaint as people perceive it to be. People loved CART and never once complained that engines weren't noisy enough. But seeing as we've had 10'ish years if these ugly screamers, suddenly quieter engines are extremely offensive to F1 fans.

I know F1 has a larger global reach and popularity, but on this forum it is still a hugely followed form of motorsport. Barely any complaints were registered.

I think the problem comes in when people leap from "I don't like the noise" to "I don't like the noise, this isn't F1 any more". One of those statements is a completely fair and valid opinion; the other is - on the surface, at least - an unfairly sweeping statement.

Not all people liked the V8s - I thought they sounded pretty shit tbh - but F1 was and continues to be the peak of single-seater performance. It's just a different get-up underneath.

The BelCar Viper? It was Pertti Kuismanen's Viper that was doing a dyno run in a workshop I was working back in summer 2006. Usually when the Evos were dynoed, you could hear it in the next room. But when the Viper got in to the dyno, the whole building was shaking. That thing was so evil that even the peak torque was 666 Nm. In the end of the day they found around +20hp with new maps and exhaust system.

the Viper:


The pro-modified drag racers were nearly equally loud.

Le Mans 2008 when 4 Corvette C6R's drove past behind each other was my most Eargasmic experience.

Le Mans 2008 when 4 Corvette C6R's drove past behind each other was my most Eargasmic experience.

Worth bearing in mind that all this whinging is largely irrelevant because the engines aren't changing any time soon, as they've been designed with road car engines in mind, and even if they did make some changes to make them louder in the medium/long-term future, judging by recent decisions it'll be on the whims of those running the sport, based on the opinions of channel-hoppers and children under the age of 11