2018 F1 Random Discussion Thread

Gabriel · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:04 pm

On a different note, Red Bull allegedly approached McLaren to get Lando Norris to replace Brendon Hartley at Toro Rosso, for the remainder of the season.

McLaren refused.

RtN · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:06 pm

Come back to Indycar, Brendon. Be Dixie's protege like you should have been.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:16 pm

He'll probably end up in Formula E, like many of the other Red Bull rejects

kals · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:37 pm

mclaren2008 wrote:

He'll probably end up in Formula E, like many of the other Red Bull rejects

Apart from Buemi, which other ex-Red Bull drivers are in Formula E?

Gabriel · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:49 pm

kals wrote:

mclaren2008 wrote:

He'll probably end up in Formula E, like many of the other Red Bull rejects

Apart from Buemi, which other ex-Red Bull drivers are in Formula E?

JEV

RtN · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:52 pm

Only the championship leader, da Costa, Alex Lynn and Tom Dillmann.

Previous FE drivers include Jani, Blomqvist, Alguersuari & Chandhok.

kals · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:57 pm

RtN wrote:

Only the championship leader, da Costa, Alex Lynn and Tom Dillmann.

Previous FE drivers include Jani, Blomqvist, Alguersuari & Chandhok.

Thanks, that’s quite a selection.

RtN · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:02 pm

Possibly more of a consequence of the fact that Marko signed up anyone and everyone not already tied down to a manufacturer for at least a year at the end of the last decade.

And now he's reduced to a driver that doesn't know what a safety car is and a bunch of scrubs in F4.

kals · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:04 pm

RtN wrote:

Possibly more of a consequence of the fact that Marko signed up anyone and everyone not already tied down to a manufacturer for at least a year at the end of the last decade.

And now he's reduced to a driver that doesn't know what a safety car is and a bunch of scrubs in F4.

For sure. Maybe Red Bull should be recalling someone like DaCosta, and give him the chance he should have got instead of Kvyat.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 4:01 pm

Honda could bring Sato back, returning to F1 as an Indy 500 winner (better than Alonso)

Fabs · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:08 pm

Soon they'll have crashhappy verstappen and that's it.

iks · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:49 pm

New mandatory helmet design from 2019:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia- ... f1-1044851

I like the shape of it. :thumbsup:

EAS · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 5:59 pm

Hartley is not doing very good, but I don't see him sucking that much for Toro Rosso to be that desperate looking for another driver.

It looks like they couldn't clinch a deal with Wehrlein and then skipped to Norris.

Spoiler:

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:28 pm

but Sette Camara doesn't have the superlicense requirements right? maybe that's why they're looking for other drivers

otherwise Honda could place one of their japanese or Dan Ticktum

codename_47 · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:41 pm

kals wrote:

These are just ideas at the end of the day. And there's no guarantee they'll be put into practice.

The GP weekend format does need an update. It's massively outdated. I can't agree however that there should be change to the race distance.

Yeah, a good way to neglect yourself out of existence is to stagnate and watch your fanbase diminish as they die off and there are no new fans from younger generations to replace them

A good example of this is Motorcycle Speedway in the Uk, almost their entire fanbase is the older generation who remember the "good old days" and moan at great length about how it is incompetently managed on social media, yet no one realises that crowds are diminishing, the younger generation just flat out don't know what speedway is any more
They view social media and the online world with suspicion and derision and any attempt to drag the sport into the 21st century is resisted in the extreme

The sport is circling the drain, and no return to the "good old days" is going to fix it, only engaging with the modern world will.

Same with the oval motorsport world I work at on the weekends, so old fashioned and see the world of online streaming and downloading as a massive threat to lowering the attendance that's already there (which is quite impressive for F1 stock cars tbf) instead of engaging a new audience that hasn't heard of the sport and might well have their heads turned.

The way liberty has been making changes to the sport (due to the contracts they inherited they couldn't make massive changes, but stuff like the online presence has increased massively from the backwards Bernie era) I'm quietly confident they'll make the right changes, and not just change things for change's sake.

ATM it seems they're just putting out feelers to see how much of the existing fanbase are wholly against certain changes and probably weighing up that vs working out how many new fans they might gain.
Nothing seems decided yet, it's all market research, and good on them for that.

amq55 · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:01 pm

kals wrote:

RtN wrote:

Possibly more of a consequence of the fact that Marko signed up anyone and everyone not already tied down to a manufacturer for at least a year at the end of the last decade.

And now he's reduced to a driver that doesn't know what a safety car is and a bunch of scrubs in F4.

For sure. Maybe Red Bull should be recalling someone like DaCosta, and give him the chance he should have got instead of Kvyat.

da Costa broke up with Red Bull because he was promised a seat to do some Fridays in 2013 but Kvyat brought more sponsorship and money in and with the Russian GP happening, Marko dumped him over Kvyat.

He did say that he was offered simulator tests in 2017 but denied as he felt that Buemi should've had the spot because of his experience and amount of work he puts in the simulator.

EAS · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:21 pm

LucasWheldon wrote:

but Sette Camara doesn't have the superlicense requirements right? maybe that's why they're looking for other drivers

Totally forgot that. You are right.

alex1369 · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:02 pm

Maybe lowering the ticket prizes would do the job, instead 110euro for GA ticket, why not only 40 euro for all 3 days. Maybe this would get the interest back

RtN · PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:15 pm

Scotty wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

The sport is circling the drain, and no return to the "good old days" is going to fix it, only engaging with the modern world will.

I don't think I've ever agreed with you more than on this point.

People's theories are "I liked F1 in 1989 why don't we just do what they did then". Every generation is going to say their era was the best. The era they fell in love with the sport. But they have to realise that we need to find ways for the current generation is going to fall in love with the sport. We need to see things from their perspective, find out what they want. Not what we want.

Robin Miller wrote:

I think a lot of people became race fans because of the sound first, the cars second and the racing third.

https://racer.com/2018/06/06/robin-mill ... ing-hpd/3/

Is it really so different today?

codename_47 · PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:52 am

RtN wrote:

Scotty wrote:

codename_47 wrote:

The sport is circling the drain, and no return to the "good old days" is going to fix it, only engaging with the modern world will.

I don't think I've ever agreed with you more than on this point.

People's theories are "I liked F1 in 1989 why don't we just do what they did then". Every generation is going to say their era was the best. The era they fell in love with the sport. But they have to realise that we need to find ways for the current generation is going to fall in love with the sport. We need to see things from their perspective, find out what they want. Not what we want.

Robin Miller wrote:

I think a lot of people became race fans because of the sound first, the cars second and the racing third.

https://racer.com/2018/06/06/robin-mill ... ing-hpd/3/

Is it really so different today?

I guess I'm just unique then as for me it would be how cool the cars looked, then the quality of racing, and the noise a distant last

I've never been that into the loud noise, I care too much for my hearing since I also work in Radio (I'm one of those guys that wears earplugs at gigs)

When 2014 came around and the engines were quiet enough to hear tyres locking, the track pa and even the fans cheering in Melbourne quali when Danny got a result, I was pretty damn happy, only to log on and see incessant whining about the noise levels.

In the era of losing any racetrack within 20 miles of any human being with ears to noise abatement orders (another cause of the decline in Speedway/stock cars as they're faced with the choice of fitting silencers, pissing off the hardcore fans, or not being allowed to race at all) it's probably time we got over the noise factor too, lest the housing developments that continually get built too near race tracks get to utilise the courts to get the tracks shut down.

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