Mika Kimi wrote:
I know it's stupid to place it there because all the overtakes are there anyway, but what's the alternative? 
Hockenheim doesn't even need DRS.
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| Author: | Omega [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:06 pm ] |
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Lucasjeha wrote: Bianchi was confirmed to drive in the first practice, as well as Bottas. Any other team will have their 3rd driver running in friday? Clos will drive for HRT |
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| Author: | Mäth [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:15 pm ] |
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They should have put the DRS zone AFTER the hairpin so they can overtake into the Mercedes turn easier. Spectators would love it actually. They wanted more spectacle for spectators, but they don't help by choosing the only real overtaking spot on the track. Making one more overtaking zone would help a hell lot more than "improving the existing one. |
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| Author: | Tobias [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:16 pm ] |
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Omega wrote: kals wrote: Oh look, people complaining about DRS again. Now there's something original. shut up kals, they have put it on the only place on the circuit where it was not needed, after the race this topic will be one big complain about DRS making it too easy. And everyone will be right. and when it doesn't deliver you'll be complaining about the lack of overtaking ... don't forget that china, for example, has a huge straight and everyone was complaining beforehand that DRS would make it too easy to pass. it turned out DRS was in fact perfectly placed and allowed for the brave to overtake. |
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| Author: | kals [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:22 pm ] |
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Omega wrote: kals wrote: Oh look, people complaining about DRS again. Now there's something original. shut up kals, they have put it on the only place on the circuit where it was not needed, after the race this topic will be one big complain about DRS making it too easy. And everyone will be right. That's a little harsh and unneccessary don't you think? Just because I don't want to jump on the "must complain about DRS in every race thread" bandwagon, it doesn't mean I should shut up. I'm with Tobias on this one. |
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| Author: | Stoegi [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:44 pm ] |
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No need to project the DRS-Rage onto others. Fact is, DRS seems out of place once again, but we can only judge that during the race. |
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| Author: | kals [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:51 pm ] |
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Stoegi wrote: DRS seems out of place once again Yes it seems out of place, but that's no guarantee that it is. I'd prefer to wait until the race (as you say) before complaining about how bad it is. That is, if it is in fact in the wrong place. And besides, I don't recall any DRS-rage in my first post. |
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| Author: | Coldtyre [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:53 pm ] |
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Mäth wrote: They should have put the DRS zone AFTER the hairpin so they can overtake into the Mercedes turn easier. Spectators would love it actually. They wanted more spectacle for spectators, but they don't help by choosing the only real overtaking spot on the track. Making one more overtaking zone would help a hell lot more than "improving the existing one. This is a good idea. If someone gets passed in the hairpin, they can crossover and combine better traction + DRS to try to get it back. It could give some crazy side-by-side racing through the fast kink and further Moy/Kimi craziness all the way to the stadium. In any case, given this track's history and how this season has been going so far, I wouldn't worry too much about this race. There will definitely be some action. |
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| Author: | Tobias [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 2:59 pm ] |
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the straight after the hairpin is no way fast enough to profit significantly from the use of DRS. |
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| Author: | Echti [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:38 pm ] |
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I' thought about the DRS zone at Hockenheim before: where else to put it?? Start/Finish straight is way to short and the fast turn 1 is not really a potential overtaking spot. The straight after turn 1 looks to be too short. The straight after the hairpin on the way down to the Mercedes arena might be a good spot but the kink there might be a problem. |
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| Author: | Schumifan [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:39 pm ] |
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Get rid of the Mercedes arena, put the DRS zone on the resulting straight. Problem solved. |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:09 pm ] |
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Echti wrote: I' thought about the DRS zone at Hockenheim before: where else to put it?? Start/Finish straight is way to short and the fast turn 1 is not really a potential overtaking spot. The straight after turn 1 looks to be too short. The straight after the hairpin on the way down to the Mercedes arena might be a good spot but the kink there might be a problem. Exactly, there is not really a good place to put it if it's not in the area they put it. If we were in the old circuit, there would be lots of spots for that hehehe good old Hockenheim. |
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| Author: | ellis [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:42 pm ] |
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DRS doesn't have to produce passes. It can be used to close the gap. Why not put it between T1 and T2 to close the cars up and give them a chance at a natural pass into the hairpin? |
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| Author: | stimaro [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:21 pm ] |
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Mika Kimi wrote: I know it's stupid to place it there because all the overtakes are there anyway, but what's the alternative? Hockenheim doesn't even need DRS. |
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| Author: | kals [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:32 pm ] |
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Of course, that's why 2010 was such a stunning race. As was 2008, bar Lewis Hamilton. |
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| Author: | Stoegi [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:34 pm ] |
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2010 sucked hard. Not sure if you were being sarcastic though :P |
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| Author: | ryan86 [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:34 pm ] |
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I was gutted Piquet didn't win since it would have been such a completely and utterly ridiculous result. |
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| Author: | kals [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:34 pm ] |
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Stoegi wrote: 2010 sucked hard. Not sure if you were being sarcastic though :P I was. |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:37 pm ] |
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I remember seeing somewhere that someone is going to change the gearbox for Hockenheim, losing 5 places in the grid, who it was? |
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| Author: | kals [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:38 pm ] |
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Grosjean |
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| Author: | Lucasjeha [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:05 pm ] |
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kals wrote: Grosjean Thanks! Just hope he won't screw it up in the start. Grosjean is a great driver, but he had many problems at the starts and the first laps this year, he needs to calm down a bit in the starts. |
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