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Which rookie impressed you most in 2011?
Di Resta (14 in standings, 21 points) 47%  47%  [ 45 ]
Perez (16th in standings, 14 points) 47%  47%  [ 45 ]
Maldonado (19th in standings, 1 point) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
d'Ambrosio (24th in standings, 0 points) 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Ricciardo (27th in standings, 0 points) 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
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Artur Craft
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Yes, but he still scored points... Take out the races Perez missed and they'd be level in the championship.

I have seen lots of people here making those claims and hyping Perez more than maybe he deserves. His season was indeed good, but even considering his rookie condition, he was by no means anywhere near as good as Kobayashi, who only have one more year than Perez, as experience.
I have seen the cherry picking of "Perez could/would have" situations many times but you guys are forgeting many situations where Koba also "could/would have" scored more points.

He was doing brilliant in Canada but had poor luck with how the race unfolded and with Nick crashing in his back. IIRC, he was second when the the race restarted, right?

He was also doing a good job in Silverstone untill Schumi crashed into his back and completely ruined their races. Maybe in Spa he could have scored some points with more luck

Even on qualifyings the situation is not as it look for some. Koba had many troubles in qualifyings, just to mention 2: he had car problem in Turkey and was doing a much faster lap in Barcelona's Q2 than Perez when got stuck by a slow after Campsa.
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Rumours abound (led by Joe Saward) that Mallya has managed to break Hulkenberg's contract and will retain Di Resta and Sutil.

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Dutch F1 commentator Olav Mol reports on Twitter that a Finnish paper tips v/d Garde for the 2nd HRT with 10m euro's
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RtN wrote:
Rumours abound (led by Joe Saward) that Mallya has managed to break Hulkenberg's contract and will retain Di Resta and Sutil.

that would be sad news for Hulk
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micha wrote:
Dutch F1 commentator Olav Mol reports on Twitter that a Finnish paper tips v/d Garde for the 2nd HRT with 10m euro's


I would love that :), hope it won't be a second Albers!
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RtN wrote:
Rumours abound (led by Joe Saward) that Mallya has managed to break Hulkenberg's contract and will retain Di Resta and Sutil.


Can we not just have 3 car teams? :p

And regarding Van der Garde - I'll only believe it when he turns up with a contract at testing. He's been floating around for so long with nothing promised.

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A major driver announcement is coming... Cant say more right now but great !

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Coming as in today, tomorow, next week, next month...?
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Why can't you say more... Clue?

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I think it involves Bianchi, as he has allready stated that a close friend is a manager of him.
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Shaddix wrote:
Coming as in today, tomorow, next week, next month...?


today I hope but not sure...

phil1993 wrote:
Why can't you say more... Clue?


Got the news from a friend who works in F1.

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If it's 'major news' then it surely has to be a seat not just a reserve role? And it has to either be Force India or Sauber?

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I really want to say more. But my friends asked me not to say more. I just respect his decision.
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krag wrote:
I really want to say more. But my friends asked me not to say more. I just respect his decision.

Ofcourse I understand that, but you can't blame us for trying :p
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krag wrote:
I really want to say more. But my friends asked me not to say more. I just respect his decision.

Ofcourse I understand that, but you can't blame us for trying :p


Of course, we are all passionate after all :)

Must go back to work now :)

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krag wrote:
A major driver announcement is coming... Cant say more right now but great !



Massa's license revoked starting immediately?? :thumbsup:
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It's official : Vergne and Ricciardo at Toro Rosso :)

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Story here
http://t.co/fy9HAd78

Thanks Krag :)

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Who's next on the Red Bull production line?

Assuming one of these two replaces Webber in 2013, they'll need another driver to fill the gap at STR.

Hopefully Caterham still tell Jarno to fuck off and Jaime brings his Repsol money along.

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Didn't see that one comming.
I really thought Jaime would keep his seat.
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