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Doesn't look like Palmer will take part in qualifying.


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StefMeister wrote:
Doesn't look like Palmer will take part in qualifying.

Saves Renault more repairs.


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I think the idea of long life components isn't really a bad one. They used to be swapping engines & stuff 3-4 times a weekend & ending up with things that were costing them a small fortune been scrapped having done less than 20 laps which was rather stupid.

However I think they need a better way than these grid penalty's to deal with it as these 40 place penalty's do just make it all look really stupid.

I often see constructor point penalty's suggested as an alternative but I don't think that is a solution as it would just penalize some more than others depending on how many points the teams around them in the standings are. A 25 points penalty for example would be massive for Williams & drop them from 6th to 9th in the standings (Ahead of only McLaren) while the same penalty for Red Bull wouldn't change anything at all.


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StefMeister wrote:
I think the idea of long life components isn't really a bad one. They used to be swapping engines & stuff 3-4 times a weekend & ending up with things that were costing them a small fortune been scrapped having done less than 20 laps which was rather stupid.

However I think they need a better way than these grid penalty's to deal with it as these 40 place penalty's do just make it all look really stupid.

I often see constructor point penalty's suggested as an alternative but I don't think that is a solution as it would just penalize some more than others depending on how many points the teams around them in the standings are. A 25 points penalty for example would be massive for Williams & drop them from 6th to 9th in the standings (Ahead of only McLaren) while the same penalty for Red Bull wouldn't change anything at all.


Engine manufacturer championship?


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StefMeister wrote:
I think the idea of long life components isn't really a bad one. They used to be swapping engines & stuff 3-4 times a weekend & ending up with things that were costing them a small fortune been scrapped having done less than 20 laps which was rather stupid.

However I think they need a better way than these grid penalty's to deal with it as these 40 place penalty's do just make it all look really stupid.

I often see constructor point penalty's suggested as an alternative but I don't think that is a solution as it would just penalize some more than others depending on how many points the teams around them in the standings are. A 25 points penalty for example would be massive for Williams & drop them from 6th to 9th in the standings (Ahead of only McLaren) while the same penalty for Red Bull wouldn't change anything at all.


Engine manufacturer championship?


Not the worst idea. Instead of points, simply rank them by the number of component changes, with the lowest at the top. Make it public enough, and that should motivate certain manufacturers a little more...


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Since 2015 I've been saying that Honda could sacrifice the qualys and some races for improving development, using tons of engines

but I can see they can't get nowhere, they got the loophole and they can't take advantage

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Not the worst idea. Instead of points, simply rank them by the number of component changes, with the lowest at the top. Make it public enough, and that should motivate certain manufacturers a little more...

Then some Cosworth will build a engine that is slow as a snail but reliable as a rock and wins the championship with Stefan GP.

They should use engines that cost £500 apiece and let them switch them freely like in the good ol' 90s. And ditch parc-ferme rules for good.


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Definitely no Palmer.


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The walls around the track breathe a sigh of relief knowing that Palmer won't be able to hit them

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Sainz messing up peoples lap


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Can we see the timing tower and timer, FOM?


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Alonso not happy with Ricciardo


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Mclaren, Ericsson and Grosjean join Palmer as out of quali


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He has one more year left on his contract, but if he keeps on carrying on the way he has over the radio then maybe I can seethe team say there won't be a fourth.

He's such a crybaby. I don't understand why they took him to lead a brand new team.


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