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Massive crash at the start of the V8 Race. They hit the same way Zanardi hit years ago, was it Zanardi i'm thinking about?

Christian Fittapaldi suffered a broken leg when he slammed the wall in 1997, at the same point that Coulthard hit today.

Hard hit for Coulthard, pushed the fence back a good half a metre if not more. Quite close to where the crowd were standing.

Ah Fittapaldi that's the one ta. Yeah that would have scared the crap out of the crowd!

Please tell me I didn't just imagine that...

The start of the last race was the biggest farce i have ever seen in motorsport. Worse than F1 Indy 05 IMO!

Wouldn't be so much of a problem if it was an exhibition or a non-championship round, but it's incredible that they mess around with the very nature of racing like that when there's consequences that could affect the championship. I reckon Skaife, Crompton and the rest pretty much speak for everyone though, they really need to get together and try and solve these stupid problems.

Details plz...for those that don't see the race for another week...

There was an accident at the first chicane on lap 1, between Ingall and Lowndes, which caused a safety car... the officials had decided prior to the weekend that if a safety car was called on lap 1 due to an accident at the chicane, for the restart cars would be placed in grid order.....

Basically the race to the first chicane was forgotten about, and hard earned places lost..... except that Ingall's car had been damaged, and Lowndes still got a drive-through for causing it

That, coupled with the Rick Kelly black flag in race 1, meant it was hardly a stellar day PR wise for V8Supercars, on a weekend where they needed to be making as good an impression as they good, given they are trying to convince the government to press on with the event as a 'V8-focused' event next year...

Who decided this was a good idea?

C'mon Surfers, find Superleague Formula, ALMS, World Series by Renault or hell, anything to fill the void left by A1GP...

Don't let V8 Supercars dick about with it because they think they're the kings of Paradise...

Actually, I have no idea why the safety car was even needed. If is was called for debris, a marshal could have gone out onto the track when the field was down the back of the circuit and the race could have stayed green. And to think they called a safety car for that, yet they didn't call one when Courtney stuffed his car into the turn 1 wall...

And the Rick Kelly black flag was a joke. I'd have no problem if there was consistency, but Coulthard was allowed to spill water (I think) on the track at Queensland in August yet black-flagged Rick for leaking fuel that was going to recitfy as the fuel load burned off.

The Safety Car was called to reset the grid.

Well that's a fucking joke. That's all that needs to be said on that matter.

They just announced Cam McConville's retirement on Sports Tonight.

Nice guy and I'm glad he's got a solid tv career to continue, cos he's never cut the mustard as a driver IMO.

He's never had the equipment, in V8Supercars at least, to show his talents at the front of the field.

In the likes of GT-Production, and later Super Touring, he showed the talent he had.

I've just noticed after flicking through the EPG, that tomorrow's V8 coverage is on at Midnight thanks to horse racing. What utter crap. Not sure if that is an Australia wide thing, but it's definitely the case in Adelaide. Sundays coverage is at the more conventional midday time however.

Ah, totally forgot about that. The other thing i noticed is that it's been given a 1 hour timeslot, surely thats not right...

I read somewhere (can't remember where) that the midnight coverage was for qualifying and the shootout, while race 1...err...race 21 will be shown on the Sunday. Probably makes sense for the one hour timeslot on Saturday. However it won't bother me one iota, as I'll be heading out to Phillip Island tomorrow.

Could certainly be the case.

Either way this is a VESA issue, not a Channel 7 one. Seven have had the Cup Carnival for years, and VESA knew the score when they dropped the Bahrain round for a local round, but kept the date the same. 7 were willing, as in previous years, to give the Bahrain event full coverage on the Friday and Saturday nights

One must wonder whether this is a trial for;

A) Time shifting the telecasts, as this is apparently the plan for Abu Dhabi and Bahrain next year, delay showing them until the Saturday and Sunday afternoons in Australia next year, and

B) possible shift to 2-day events in the future.

I had forgotten to change the title. Been paying more attention to the silly season so far.
McConville retiring.
Coulthard from Paul Cruickshank Racing to Walkinshaw Racing (likely Bundy Red car)
Lucas Dumbrell a chance to purchase a Tasman licence. Potentially to run a car for Jack Perkins.
Tony D'Alberto in the market for the 2nd Tasman licence.
V8SA could cut the number of licences back to 28 by purchasing any licence on the market.
Greg Murphy looking at drives (Kelly Racing, Paul Morris, Brad Jones)
Rod Nash taking his licence and Bottle-O sponsorship to expand FPR to 3 cars. Paul Dumbrell linked to the seat.
Fujitsu moving to Garry Rogers meaning Jason Bright is without a sponsor for next year. Interesting to hear his comment today that suggested his current relationship was coming to an end meaning a move from SBR.

Race 21 was run today, Race 22 tomorrow.

Race 21
Bright did a stellar job putting the car on pole from Will Davison and Whincup in the Shootout.
The luck didn't keep up for Bright. Was 3rd by Turn 1, where he ran Todd Kelly wide onto the grass. Kelly rejoined the circuit and pushed Bright off the track at Turn 2.

Only SC for the race was for Todd Kelly and Lowndes coming together at Turn 2. Lowndes had made a pass at Turn 10, Todd got back alongside along the front straight, Lowndes slid wide at Turn 1, which allowed Todd to push past (not completely). Lowndes came back up the inside at Turn 2, taking both cars off the track and into the gravel. Lowndes reversed out of the gravel trap to finish 18th*. I'd have gone with racing incident, but Lowndes accepted the charge of dangerous driving and took a 38 second penalty for his troubles which will drop him back to 28th, only ahead of Todd who lost a lap in the gravel.

Todd Kelly was also penalised 10 championship points for not having all 4 wheels off the ground when refuelling.

In the end Whincup took the race from Will Davison and Rick Kelly. Not a bad race, and the tire wear tomorrow could create some interesting viewing.

V8 SUPERCARS - Race 21

Event R3        22 Laps  
Scheduled Start 15:35
PRELIMINARY RESULT
                                    
Page 1    Issue 1 SPI11A
Start Sat Nov 07   15:39
Elapsed Time       38:06
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Pos Car  Competitor/Team                Driver                   Vehicle              Cap   CL Laps     Race.Time Fastest...Lap

1     1  TeamVodafone                   Jamie Whincup            Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:06.6490   2 1:35.7592*
2    22  Toll Holden Racing Team        Will Davison             Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:08.4983   2 1:35.9480 
3    15  Jack Daniels Racing            Rick Kelly               Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:08.9845   2 1:35.8772 
4     2  Toll Holden Racing Team        Garth Tander             Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:11.1649   2 1:36.4604 
5     9  SP Tools Racing                Shane Van Gisbergen      Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:12.1978   3 1:36.8195 
6     5  Ford Performance Racing        Mark Winterbottom        Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:12.9718   3 1:36.6816 
7    33  Garry Rogers Motorsport        Lee Holdsworth           Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:13.3552   2 1:36.5767 
8    17  Jim Beam Racing                Steven Johnson           Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:13.7981   3 1:36.8539 
9    18  Jim Beam Racing                James Courtney           Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:15.5699   3 1:36.7490 
10    8  Team BOC                       Jason Richards           Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:16.1984   3 1:36.7691 
11    4  Irwin Racing                   Alex Davison             Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:18.4120   4 1:36.9313 
12   10  Team Autobarn                  Paul Dumbrell            Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:19.1220   4 1:37.0817 
13   39  Supercheap Auto Racing         Russell Ingall           Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:19.3590   5 1:37.3742 
14  111  Wilson Security Racing         Fabian Coulthard         Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:20.5906   8 1:37.3500 
15   51  Sprint Gas Racing              Greg Murphy              Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:21.8844   8 1:37.4781 
16   25  Fujitsu Racing                 Jason Bright             Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:22.2666  11 1:37.3386 
17    6  Ford Performance Racing        Steven Richards          Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:22.6343   9 1:37.3578 
18  888  TeamVodafone                   Craig Lowndes            Ford Falcon FG       5000       22    38:23.0183   2 1:36.1327 
19   24  Bundaberg Red Racing Team      David Reynolds           Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:23.4644   3 1:37.1138 
20   55  The Bottle-O Racing Team       Tony D'Alberto           Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:24.4173   8 1:37.6354 
21   34  Garry Rogers Motorsport        Michael Caruso           Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:25.3347   5 1:37.2879 
22   67  Supercheap Auto Racing         Tim Slade                Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:25.9102   9 1:37.3377 
23   12  Bing Lee/Panasonic Lumix       Dean Fiore               Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:26.5695  12 1:37.6096 
24    3  Sprint Gas Racing              Jason Bargwanna          Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:27.0459  10 1:36.9177 
25   14  WOW Racing                     Cameron McConville       Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:29.1142   5 1:38.0759 
26   11  Dodo Racing Team               Jack Perkins             Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:30.1366   3 1:38.4055 
27   16  Hi-Tec Oils Racing             Mark McNally             Holden Commodore VE  5000       22    38:32.0555  14 1:38.7788 
28  333  Supply Direct/Wilson Security  Michael Patrizi          Ford Falcon BF       5000       22    38:44.3110   5 1:38.4119 
29    7  Jack Daniel's Racing           Todd Kelly               Holden Commodore VE  5000       21    38:33.3788   2 1:35.9199 

Fastest Lap Av.Speed Is 167kph, Race Av.Speed Is 154kph
Current Race Lap Record Is 1:33.4389 Set On 16/05/1999 By Craig Lowndes In A Holden Commodore VT
R=under lap record by greatest margin, r=under lap record, *=fastest lap time