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The next round, the first enduro, L&H 500 at Phillip Island and the Said Head will be around.

Will be interesting to see how the first touring car enduro at Phillip Island since 1977 (discounting the 2003 300km race) goes.... i'm predicting a tyre-saving dud, especially with these little sprint races on the saturday.

Roll on Bathurst though

They're also auctioning off some body panels. I'll be there to check out the superkart display and hopefully they haven't sold off the other Ford Fiesta S2000 rally car. Goes from 9am until 3pm for those that want to go.

For those who have MotorsTV

From the October Highlights press release on the MotorsTV site.


The support races on the Sunday morning are the V8 Utes and Carrera Cup.

Ahh fantastic Will be the first live race I've watched on Motors TV this year I think.

Somebody needs to stream that shit.

The stream that has been reposted at TBK since Bathurst last year should be available, I'm sure it will get posted here closer to the race time. That stream should be a simulcast of the television coverage for the race (Not incl. the supports). It should also have the V8 Qualifying on the Friday and Saturday. Still 6 weeks away, so hopefully Telstra (the stream provider) doesn't learn anything about stream protection in that time. I don't think they have learnt anything in the past few years.

I don't know whether it is worth opening a new thread to discuss each V8 round as the threads aren't usually that long. The only race that deserves its own thread is Bathurst.

V8SC 2008 - Round 9 - Phillip Island L&H 500

Here are some of the confusing rules for the weekend.
Practice:
Standard format.
Part 1: Drivers inside the Top 15 cannot participate.
Part 2 and 3: Maximum number of laps is 45.

Qualifying:
Driver A Qualifying sets the grid for Race 1 (Driver A Race).
Driver B Qualifying sets the grid for Race 2 (Driver B Race).
Combined points for the races set the grid for Race 3.

Race Formats:
Race 1: For Driver A - 14 laps
Race 2: For Driver B - 14 laps
Race 3: The usual 500km race - 113 laps

Compulsory Pit Stops:
Race 1 and 2: There is one CPS for tyres that must be taken in either Race 1 or 2. The pit window is Lap 5-11 in both races.
Race 3: There are 3 CPS’s. 2 for at least refuelling and 1 for at least tyres during the pit window of Lap 5-84.

Championship Points
Points earned by drivers in Race 1 and 2 will count towards both drivers.
Race 3 as usual counts towards both drivers.

Round Results
The finishing positions of the 'L & H 500' will be the finishing positions at the end of Race 3, regardless of the total number of points accumulated by and driver pairing over the 3 races.

RESULTS
Natsoft Race Results - Natsoft provide results, lap charts, etc.

V8 Supercar Live Timing - For first time users please register before the session you intend to first use it for.

TRACK MAP

Phillip Island is a 4.446km anticlockwise circuit, located 128km by road south-east of Melbourne.

WEATHER
Cowes (located on Phillip Island) Forecast
Melbourne Radar (Track located near Rhyll)

PREVIOUS SUCCESS

Year  Driver on Pole    Car     Round Winner      Car 
1995  Glenn Seton       Ford    Glenn Seton       Ford
1996  Peter Brock       Holden  Larry Perkins     Holden
1997  Glenn Seton       Ford    Mark Skaife       Holden
1998  Craig Lowndes     Holden  Craig Lowndes     Holden
1999  Glenn Seton       Ford    Mark Skaife       Holden
2000  Craig Lowndes     Holden  Garth Tander      Holden
2001  Mark Skaife       Holden  Mark Skaife       Holden
2002  Marcos Ambrose    Ford    Mark Skaife       Holden
2003  Mark Skaife       Holden  Craig Lowndes     Ford
2005  Marcos Ambrose    Ford    Marcos Ambrose    Ford
2006  Todd Kelly        Holden  Todd Kelly        Holden
2006  Rick Kelly        Holden  Garth Tander      Holden 

LAP RECORDS
Qualifying - 2000 - Craig Lowndes - Holden Commodore - 1.32.0713
Lap - 1999 - Craig LOwndes - Holden Commodore - 1.33.4389
Outright - 2000 - Simon Wills - Reynard 94D - 1.24.2215

SCHEDULE (AEST +10 GMT)
Friday 12th September 2008
0910-0930: Carrera Cup - Practice
0940-1000: Formula Ford - Practice
1010-1030: Mini Challenge - Practice
1040-1100: Touring Car Masters - Practice
1110-1130: Carrera Cup - Qualifying
1140-1200: Mini Challenge - Qualifying
1210-1230: Formula Ford - Qualifying
1245-1315: V8 Supercars - Practice Part 1
1320-1350: V8 Supercars - Practice Part 2
1400-1420: Touring Car Masters - Qualifying
1430-1545: V8 Supercars - Practice Part 3
1600-1620: Mini Challenge - Race 1 - 8 laps
1630-1700: V8 Supercars - Meeting Rides

Saturday 13th September 2008
0840-0900: Safety Car / Course Car Rides
0910-0940: V8 Supercars - Driver A Practice
0955-1025: V8 Supercars - Driver B Practice
1035-1055: Carrera Cup - Race 1 - 11 laps
1110-1130: Touring Car Masters - Race 1 - 9 laps
1145-1205: V8 Supercars - Driver A Qualifying
1220-1240: V8 Supercars - Driver B Qualifying
1255-1315: Formula Ford - Race 1 - 10 laps
1330-1350: Mini Challenge - Race 2 - 8 laps
1410-1435: V8 Supercars - Race Driver A - 14 laps
1445-1505: Carrera Cup - Race 2 - 11 laps
1520-1550: Touring Car Masters - Race 2 - 9 laps
1610-1635: V8 Supercars - Race Driver B - 14 laps

Sunday 14th September 2008
0845-0905: Safety Car / Course Car Rides
0915-0935: Formula Ford - Race 2 - 10 laps
0950-1010: Touring Car Masters - Race 3 - 9 laps
1025-1045: V8 Supercars - Warm Up
1100-1130: Mini Challenge - Race 3 - 8 laps
1145-1205: Formula Ford - Race 3 - 10 laps
1220-1240: Carrera Cup - Race 3 - 11 laps
1245-1315: Pre Race Entertainment
1330-1713: V8 Supercars - Race 3 - 113 laps or one lap after 1713 whichever occurs 1st.

ENTRY LIST + CHAMPIONSHIP STATISTICS
1 - HRT - Toll Holden Racing Team - Mark Skaife / Garth Tander
2 - HRT - Toll Holden Racing Team - Glenn Seton / Craig Baird
3 - TAS - Sprint Gas Racing - Jason Richards / Greg Murphy
4 - SBR - Jeld-Wen Motorsport - James Courtney / David Besnard
5 - FPR - Ford Performance Racing - Luke Youlden / Dean Canto
6 - FPR - Ford Performance Racing - Steven Richards / Mark Winterbottom
7 - JDR - Jack Daniel's Racing - Todd Kelly / Nathan Pretty
9 - SBR - SP Tools Racing - Shane van Gisbergen / Jonathon Webb
11 - JDR - Jack Daniel's Racing - Shane Price / Jack Perkins
12 - BOC - Team BOC - Andrew Jones / Cameron McConville
14 - BOC - Team BOC - Max Wilson / Brad Jones
15 - HSV - HSV Dealer Team - Rick Kelly / Paul Radisich
16 - HSV - Autobarn Racing Team - Paul Dumbrell / David Reynolds
17 - DJR - Jim Beam Racing - Steve Owen / Warren Luff
18 - DJR - Jim Beam Racing - Will Davison / Steven Johnson
021 - TKR - Team Kiwi Racing - Chris Pither / Kayne Scott
25 - BRI - Fujitsu Racing - Jason Bright / Adam Macrow
26 - BRI - Irwin Racing - Marcus Marshall / Matt Halliday
33 - GRM - Valvoline Cummins Race Team - Lee Holdsworth / Michael Caruso
34 - GRM - Valvoline Cummins Race Team - Greg Ritter / Steven Ellery
39 - PMM - Supercheap Auto Racing - Paul Morris / Russell Ingall
50 - PWR - PWR Performance Products - Andrew Thompson / Paul Weel
51 - TAS - Sprint Gas Racing - Dale Wood / Mark Noske
55 - RNR - Rod Nash Racing - Tony D’Alberto / Jason Bargwanna
67 - PMM - Supercheap Auto Racing - Boris Said / Matt Neal
88 - 888 - Team Vodafone - Marc Hynes / Fabrizio Giovanardi
111 - PCR - Glenfords Racing - Fabian Coulthard / John McIntyre
777 - FRS - Ford Rising Stars Racing - Michael Patrizi / Grant Denyer
888 - 888 - Team Vodafone - Jamie Whincup / Craig Lowndes


SERIES POINTS
DRIVERS CHAMPIONSHIP
TOP 10
Garth Tander 1844, Mark Winterbottom 1832, Jamie Whincup 1758, Rick Kelly 1506, Will Davison 1426, Steven Richards 1383, Craig Lowndes 1365, James Courtney 1343, Lee Holdsworth 1200, Russell Ingall 1189.

TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
3227 Ford Performance Racing Team
3123 Team Vodafone
2828 Toll Holden Racing Team
2458 Jim Beam Racing (+1)
2391 Stone Brothers Racing (-1)
2350 HSV Dealer Team
1958 Garry Rogers Motorsport
1898 Supercheap Auto Racing
1749 Brad Jones Racing
1728 Jack Daniels Racing (+1)
1698 Tasman Motorsport (-1)
1242 Britek Motorsport
1049 Glenfords Racing (S)
620 Rod Nash Racing (S)
492 Team Kiwi Racing (S)
467 PWR Performance Products (S)
384 Ausdrill Ford Rising Stars (S)

2008 STATISTICS
POLE SITTERS: 7 Ford, 1 Holden
ROUND WINNERS: 6 Ford, 2 Holden
ROUND PODIUM SPOTS: Ford 16 (6-5-5), Holden 8 (2-3-3)
RACE WINNERS: 17 Ford, 6 Holden

TELECAST TIMES
Times from http://www.v8supercar.com.au/content/te ... channel_7/
Check http://www.tvguide.com.au or your local guides closer to the event to check for any disparity.

Saturday:
1400-1730 (Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth)
Sunday:
1200-1730 (Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth)

The updated Championship Statistics for the regular drivers
ENTRY LIST + CHAMPIONSHIP STATISTICS

                                                                C'ship     Round Statistics     Race Statistics 
No.       Sponsor Name                 Driver               Car Pos Pts   Best  1-2-3  T5-T10  Best  1-2-3  T5-T10

1    HRT  Toll Holden Racing Team      Garth Tander         VE   1  1844   1st  2-1-2   6-7     1st  6-2-6  18-20
2    HRT  Toll Holden Racing Team      Mark Skaife          VE  15   972   7th  0-0-0   0-3     2nd  0-1-0   3-9
3    TAS  Sprint Gas Racing            Jason Richards       VE  17   850   9th  0-0-0   0-1     4th  0-0-0   1-5
4    SBR  Jeld-Wen Motorsport          James Courtney       BF   7  1365   3rd  0-0-3   3-5     1st  1-1-3   8-16
5    FPR  Ford Performance Racing      Mark Winterbottom    BF   2  1832   1st  2-3-0   5-7     1st  7-7-1  16-20
6    FPR  Ford Performance Racing      Steven Richards      BF   6  1383   1st  1-1-0   2-5     1st  1-4-1   9-15
7    JDR  Jack Daniel's Racing         Todd Kelly           VE  11  1116   5th  0-0-0   1-3     4th  0-0-0   2-7
9    SBR  SP Tools Racing              Shane Van Gisbergen  BF  13  1048   4th  0-0-0   1-3     2nd  0-1-0   3-7
11   JDR  Jack Daniel's Racing         Shane Price          VE  25   612  18th  0-0-0   0-0    13th  0-0-0   0-0
12   BOC  Team BOC                     Andrew Jones         VE  20   780  10th  0-0-0   0-1     9th  0-0-0   0-1
14   BOC  Team BOC                     Cameron McConville   BF  16   969   7th  0-0-0   0-2     3rd  0-0-1   2-7
15   HSV  HSV Dealer Team              Rick Kelly           VE   4  1506   3rd  0-0-1   5-7     2nd  0-2-0   6-19
16   HSV  Autobarn Racing Team         Paul Dumbrell        VE  19   844   8th  0-0-0   0-1     8th  0-0-0   0-3
17   DJR  Jim Beam Racing              Steven Johnson       BF  14  1032   4th  0-0-0   1-2     5th  0-0-0   1-5
18   DJR  Jim Beam Racing              Will Davison         BF   5  1426   1st  1-0-1   3-5     1st  2-2-0   9-18
021  TKR  Team Kiwi Racing             Kayne Scott          BF  29   362  17th  0-0-0   0-0    14th  0-0-0   0-0
25   BRI  Fujitsu Racing               Jason Bright         BF  23   700   9th  0-0-0   0-2     8th  0-0-0   0-3
26   BRI  IRWIN Racing                 Marcus Marshall      BF  26   542  16th  0-0-0   0-0    13th  0-0-0   0-0
33   GRM  Valvoline Cummins Race Team  Lee Holdsworth       VE   9  1200   2nd  0-1-0   1-4     2nd  0-1-1   5-11
34   GRM  Valvoline Cummins Race Team  Michael Caruso       VE  21   758  13th  0-0-0   0-0     8th  0-0-0   0-0
39   PMM  Supercheap Auto Racing       Russell Ingall       VE  10  1189   2nd  0-1-0   3-4     2nd  0-1-2   6-13
50   PWR  PWR Performance Products     Andrew Thompson      VE  27   467  18th  0-0-0   0-0    13th  0-0-0   0-0
51   TAS  Sprint Gas Racing            Greg Murphy          VE  18   848   7th  0-0-0   0-2     7th  0-0-0   0-5
55   RNR  Rod Nash Racing              Tony D'Alberto       VE  24   620  17th  0-0-0   0-0    10th  0-0-0   0-1
67   PMM  Supercheap Auto Racing       Paul Morris          VE  22   709  12th  0-0-0   0-0    10th  0-0-0   0-1
88   888  Team Vodafone                Jamie Whincup        BF   3  1758   1st  2-1-1   6-7     1st  5-1-5  16-20
111  PCR  Glenfords Racing             Fabian Coulthard     BF  12  1049   5th  0-0-0   1-3     6th  0-0-0   0-8
777  FRS  Ford Rising Stars            Michael Patrizi      BF  28   384  20th  0-0-0   0-0    19th  0-0-0   0-0
888  888  Team Vodafone                Craig Lowndes        BF   7  1365   4th  0-0-0   2-6     1st  1-0-3  10-15
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021  TKR  Team Kiwi Racing             Chris Pither         BF  30    58  25th  0-0-0   0-0    19th  0-0-0   0-0

Supporting the 88 car.

And damn, that's taking on the Superleague Formula for the most wacky rules on a race weekend.

Phillip Island is not the place to try this kind of split format for the co-drivers.

Any off here is usually big, and writing off a car in a gimmick race on Saturday won't go down well with team owners and sponsors. Because of this I expect relatively tame races on the Saturday with drivers too scared to put themselves out of Sunday action.

Hopefully Sunday provides good action, and weather at PI always throws up a few surprises. However it will more than likely come down to which teams use their tyres the best, and could become quite boring.

Anyway I'm happy for a change in the 500 venue, and would hope that 4 seasons in one day weather that Sandown has seen over the past few years continues.

Here is the "new" Adelaide Street Circuit. The things that has changed is the last turn making it tighter for more overtaking possibilities, a new pit paddock, new grandstands, and a wider pit straight. Here are the official plans from the Clipsal 500 website.

http://www.clipsal500.com.au/2008-power ... pgrade.pdf

Changes for 2009 have been announced. Here is a summary of the changes, which is pretty much rehashed in the articles.

• New fuel - E85 (85% ethanol blended fuel). Will have to refuel every race due to increased race length, and fuel burn.
• At 6 events in 2009 teams will be allocated four softer compound tyres. Winton, Symmons Plains, Hidden Valley, Darwin, Sandown, Queensland, Barbagallo. These events will be 100km race on Saturday, 200km race on Sunday.
• At least 4 events of 2x200km races. 1 Saturday, 1 Sunday. Bahrain, Townsville, Hamilton, Indy.
• All events will feature a Top 10 Shootout following the current Leg 1 and 2 of Qualifying.
• No CPS Window at any events.
• In all events first across the line on Sunday wins the event.
• Points 100 for Race 1, 200 for Race 2 at the 100km Sat, 200km Sun events.
• Points 150 per Race at all other events except PI500 (50 for the 2 races on Saturday, 200 for Sunday) and Bathurst (300)
• During refuelling stops other work on car permitted
• Cars permitted to overlap but not overtake before the control line at a restart.
  
  
  http://www.v8supercar.com.au/content/he ... _for_2009/
  Quote:
  Sweeping changes revealed for 2009
  Release date: 13/09/2008
  
  A raft of widely anticipated changes to the sporting regulations of V8 Supercars will spearhead the biggest shakeup in the sport's history for the 2009 championship.
  
  Category chairman Tony Cochrane confirmed today that a brace of changes intended to spice up the competition will be rolled out for the 14-round championship.
  
  “I think these changes will add enormously to our appeal and increase our fan base,” Cochrane said.
  
  Details of the exact make-up of the 2009 calendar have been delayed for several reasons, but Cochrane stressed that it is not solely due to the much talked about street race at the Sydney Olympic precinct at Homebush Bay.
  
  V8 Supercars chief executive Wayne Cattach said that the changes have been brought about following input from team owners, drivers, fans and officials.
  
  Central to the changes is the introduction of a soft compound tyre that is aimed to add to the strategy equation.
  
  The soft tyre, of which four sets out of 12 will be allocated, will be reserved for two-race weekends at Winton, Symmons Plains, Hidden Valley, Sandown, Queensland Raceway and Barbagallo Raceway.
  
  Three-heat sprint weekends have been abolished along with a change to the third part of the knockout qualifying system, which will now include the return of the top 10 shootout.
  
  What triggered the re-introduction of the shootout was the advice from series broadcaster Channel 7 which claims that the single lap flying action generates greater entertainment appeal on television.
  
  Cattach conceded that V8 Supercar racing had become a bit processional over the course of the last couple of years, and as all sports inherently do, needed to reinvent itself.
  
  “I think that any product that has been around as long as ours needs to be critically looked at from time to time and obviously freshened up,” Cattach said.
  
  “We looked back from a clean sheet of paper and from the bottom up we are trying to build more entertainment for the fans.”
  
  Officials have reserved the right to modify changes to the soft tyre compound if it is felt that it is not triggering some “interesting strategies”.
  
  “We reserve the right to suck it and see,” Cattach said.
  
  “We hope that by allowing the discretion of the team manager's that we will get some interesting strategies coming out.
  
  “If they all fall into line then we might make some changes midway through the season.”
  
  The soft tyres will not be allowed to be used for practice or qualifying and will be specially marked so they are easily identifiable to fans in races.
  
  V8 Supercars says it has tried to heighten the entertainment value of racing without using contrived or artificial means and increase the number of variables, which can influence a result.
  
  Other key changes are:
  
  *The removal of specific pit stop windows.
  
  *Confirmation of the use of cleaner 85 per cent E85 ethanol fuel.
  
  *The winner of the feature race on Sundays (like the Clipsal 500) will be deemed the winner of the event.
  
  *At Winton, Symmons Plains, Hidden Valley, Sandown, Queensland Raceway and Barbagallo the points allocation is 100 for race 1 and 200 for race 2.
  
  *The points split at all other races is 150 for both races except for Phillip Island (50 points for races 1 and 2 and 200 for race 3 and Bathurst which issues 300 points to the winner.
  
  *Refuelling will be mandatory in every race.
  
  *Other work such as tyre changes is permitted during refuelling.
  
  *Only 6 crew members will be permitted across the prescribed line during any pit stop.
  
  *Cars will be permitted to overlap but not pass prior to crossing the control line at a restart.
  
  Author:Gordon Lomas
  Source:BigPond Sport copyright
  
  
  http://www.v8supercar.com.au/content/la ... s-in-2009/
  
  Quote:
  New format changes in 2009
  Release date: 13/09/2008
  
  The V8 Supercar Championship Series plans to revolutionise the sport with major changes to a softer compound tyre option, abolishment of three-race sprint rounds and a return to a Top Ten Shootout as part of substantial and widespread format changes to be introduced in 2009.
  
  V8 Supercars Australia Chairman Tony Cochrane today announced the extensive format changes that will also involve the first use of an 85 per cent ethanol blended fuel from 2009 onwards.
  
  “It is time for the sport to reinvent itself and spice up the on-track spectacle,” Mr Cochrane said.
  
  “The Board and Team Owners fully agree that these sweeping changes are what is needed to take the sport to the next level by ensuring for everybody at the track and watching at home that it has plenty to offer.
  
  “We have been fortunate over many years to have had such a great growth sport, now it’s time to really shake it up and put the pressure on ourselves to come up with an improved package for everybody.”
  
  The introduction of the ethanol blend offers the opportunity to also add to the action by increasing the length of races which in turn will result in cars having to refuel at least once every event weekend.
  
  In addition to the new tyre rules outlined today V8 Supercars Australia will be announcing additional new format changes at the final round of the 2008 Championship at Oran Park in Sydney.
  
  At six events in 2009 teams will be allocated four softer compound tyres. These events are the two-race weekends at Winton, Symmons Plains in Tasmania, Hidden Valley in Darwin, Sandown Raceway, Queensland Raceway and Barbagallo Raceway in Perth.
  
  Each of these events will consist of one 100km race on Saturday and one 200km race on Sunday – which will require pit stops for tyres and fuel.
  
  At least four events in the season will consist of two 200km races with one on Saturday and one on Sunday. These include the Gulf Air Desert 400 in Bahrain, the Townsville 400, Hamilton 400 and the Indy 300.
  
  All events will include a Top Ten Shootout following the current first two legs of qualifying. In all events the winner will be the driver/drivers that cross the finish line first in the Sunday leg.
  
  There will be no compulsory pit stop windows at any events.
  
  Source:V8 Latest News

I go to the Surfers Paradise weekend every year as i live in Surfers Paradise! If anyone else here has been too, then you would know it's one of the best racing weekends you can go to!

pfft I was in a convo with both at Winton

Marshall is so confident for such a shit driver it's funny.

Did they release a map of the proposed street circuit in Sydney for 2009 yet?? I wonder how this track will look like.

This dull thing

Ouch!!
However I'm still looking forward to it.

that's...ouch

Whether the event gets approved is questionable, as the NSW Labor Party seems to be in a bit of a mess at the moment, with the premier Morris Iemma who seemed to be backing the event outed last week.