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Who will win the first enduro
Poll ended at Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:44 pm
Lowndes/Whincup 50%  50%  [ 5 ]
Tander/Davison 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Richards/Winterbottom 10%  10%  [ 1 ]
Kelly/Kelly 10%  10%  [ 1 ]
Richards/McConville 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Van Gisbergen/Davison 10%  10%  [ 1 ]
Johnson/Courtney 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Holdsworth/Caruso 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Ingall/Morris 10%  10%  [ 1 ]
Murphy/Skaife 10%  10%  [ 1 ]
Coulthard/Patrizi 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Other 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes: 10
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Try http://www.v8supercars.com.au/live_race_engine/choose.aspx

I know it's worked for international members in the past even though you're not a member, cause I don't have Bigpond and it works for me.


I can get everything loaded except for the stream.


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The speed he went off there was mind blowing, wasn't there a big dirt wall there only a few years ago??......


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HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S HUGE, why the hell wasn't there something to stop the car from going to the other part of the track

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I was thinking the same. :o


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scotty wrote:
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The speed he went off there was mind blowing, wasn't there a big dirt wall there only a few years ago??......


Nah its always been open, i remember a superbike went through a flew over the other side of the track and it ended up clearing all the fences.

I'm actually pretty sure there did used to be an earth bank there. I do recall the superbike accident you speak of, but i'm pretty sure it launched off of the bank.


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TANDER PASSES LOWNDES ON THE LAST LAP AND WINS!!!

HOLY SHIT.


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HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S HUGE, why the hell wasn't there something to stop the car from going to the other part of the track


There will be next year.

Owen car must get a penalty for that or the DSO is on drugs.


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watch about 10 laps, got bored of it. Just waiting for Bathurst and most of all, Surfers Paradise. 8)


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Just got home from a road trip to Melbourne for the weekend (went to see Adelaide in the AFL SemiFinals), so missed the majority of the weekend action.

Holy crap the McConville accident could have been huge. If the T1 gravel trap was sand he would have been barrel rolled numerous times. Very lucky not to flip on the undulations before rejoining the circuit, and to not be t-boned. Lucky as hell.

Not sure what you can implement down there other than a drag racing style net, as a sand trap could have caused more problems and a wall could have been deadly at the speed he went off.


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Also the aforementioned Superbike crash from 2003.

http://www.sbs.com.au/speedweek/watch/v ... sland-2003


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The only thing you could really put there is like a man made hill say 50 or 60 ft high so the car would sort of roll up the hill but roll back down once the pace is wiped off. I spose tho if the car somehow cleared that it would be even worse. No doubt TEGA and CAMS will have a big discussion about it for next year.


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HRT steals Phillip Island 500 win

Holden Racing Team's Garth Tander and Will Davison have stolen victory with a last-lap change of lead in the L&H 500 at Phillip Island, giving Holden Racing Team back-to-back victories in the event.

The HRT duo had spent most of the race in second place, just behind the Team Vodafone car of Craig Lowndes and Jamie Whincup. It had been a fantastic duel between the two, the cars separated by no more than a couple of seconds throughout the race.

Tander had earlier taken the lead on lap 87 after a lapped car baulked Lowndes, before Lowndes retook the lead 11 laps later and looked set to take victory.

But a right front tyre started to deflate over the final three laps and meant that Lowndes was helpless when Tander caught him halfway through the lap, handing the HRT car victory.

Behind them, the Ford Performance Racing Falcon of Steven Richards and Mark Winterbottom took third, just a couple of seconds ahead of Jim Beam's James Courtney and Steven Johnson, both cars running in the top five throughout the race.

Problems for the Kelly brothers cost them a chance of beating both of them, as fixing a seat belt problem apparently cost Todd Kelly quite a few seconds during his stint in the middle of the race. Regardless, they were still quick enough to finish fifth ahead of the second Jim Beam car of Jonathon Webb and Warren Luff.

Completing the top ten were Supercheap's Russell Ingall and Tim Slade, Craig Baird and Paul Dumbrell in the second HRT car, Dean Canto and Luke Youlden in the second FPR car and Alex Davison and Shane van Gisbergen who recovered well after suffering a flat right front tyre earlier in the race.

The race was relatively incident-free apart, but the safety car made two appearances early in the race. The first came when Fabian Coulthard had a terminal engine failure in the opening laps of the race, dropping oil on the circuit.

The second came out when Cameron McConville and Steve Owen made contact heading into Doohan Corner, the Team BOC car of McConville suffering broken front left suspension and going through the gravel, tarmac runoff and grass, crossing the track after the exit of Southern Loop, luckily not hitting other cars as it did so.

Remarkably, the other car in the Brad Jones team was involved in an almost identical incident with Lee Holdsworth just over ten laps later, except with positions reversed, this time the loser being the car of Holdsworth, who managed to slow down enough to rejoin the track in a asfe manner, but again with broken front left suspension.

The last-lap change of lead means that the points positions have changed very little at the top, even less so than if the result had remained as it was. Whincup's lead reduces by 12 points to 171, while Tander and Lowndes are now separated by 13 points instead of 1 as it was before the weekend started, but both remain well off the leading duo's pace.
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Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Race Time Fastest Lap Fastest Time 
1 2 Toll Holden Racing Team W.Davison/G.Tander Holden Commodore VE 113 03:09:47.8436 2 1:34.9368
2 888 TeamVodafone C.Lowndes/J.Whincup Ford Falcon FG 113 03:09:50.5165 2 1:34.8224
3 6 Ford Performance Racing S.Richards/M.Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 113 03:09:58.1831 2 1:35.1912
4 17 Jim Beam Racing J.Courtney/S.Johnson Ford Falcon FG 113 03:10:01.1871 4 1:35.3677
5 7 Jack Daniel's Racing R.Kelly/T.Kelly Holden Commodore VE 113 03:10:39.8538 4 1:35.1581
6 18 Jim Beam Racing W.Luff/J.Webb Ford Falcon FG 113 03:10:47.7280 85 1:35.4342
7 39 Supercheap Auto Racing R.Ingall/T.Slade Holden Commodore VE 113 03:10:56.3564 4 1:35.2414
8 22 Toll Holden Racing Team C.Baird/P.Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 113 03:10:59.2325 9 1:35.4091
9 5 Ford Performance Racing D.Canto/L.Youlden Ford Falcon FG 113 03:11:02.7487 89 1:35.6295
10 9 SP Tools Racing A.Davison/S.Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 113 03:11:05.1013 2 1:35.0803
11 51 Sprint Gas Racing G.Murphy/M.Skaife Holden Commodore VE 113 03:11:05.8291 9 1:36.2084
12 10 Team Autobarn S.Owen/S.Price Holden Commodore VE 112 03:09:49.9795 3 1:35.6683
13 34 Garry Rogers Motorsport D.Besnard/G.Ritter Holden Commodore VE 112 03:09:50.0999 2 1:34.9508
14 11 Dodo Racing Team J.Perkins/D.Wood Holden Commodore VE 112 03:10:36.4954 95 1:36.1817
15 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team T.D'Alberto/A.Thompson Holden Commodore VE 112 03:10:36.7681 4 1:35.7133
16 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team A.Priaulx/D.Reynolds Holden Commodore VE 112 03:10:47.9705 3 1:35.5678
17 4 Irwin Racing D.Gaunt/J.McIntyre Ford Falcon FG 112 03:11:20.3901 8 1:36.0272
18 15 Jack Daniels Racing B.Collins/N.Pretty Holden Commodore VE 111 03:10:08.8414 90 1:36.4080
19 333 Wilson Security Racing L.Tander/D.Wall Ford Falcon BF 111 03:10:13.2942 9 1:36.2071
20 13 Jesus Racing A.Fisher/D.Sieders Ford Falcon BF 111 03:10:19.6349 89 1:36.4688
21 88 TeamVodafone A.Simonsen/J.Thompson Ford Falcon FG 111 03:10:26.5670 9 1:35.6472
22 16 Hi-Tec Oils Racing M.McNally/T.Ricciardello Holden Commodore VE 101 03:11:09.1036 10 1:36.9428
23 21 Fujitsu Racing D.Assaillit/B.Lowe Ford Falcon BF 93 03:10:32.5749 71 1:37.0743
24 23 Greg Murphy Racing T.Douglas/S.Walter Holden Commodore VE 92 03:10:31.9296 10 1:36.0705
DNF 25 Fujitsu Racing J.Bright/K.Reindler Ford Falcon FG 92 02:39:53.0298 62 1:35.3305
DNF 14 WOW Racing A.Jones/B.Jones Holden Commodore VE 80 03:10:12.7922 4 1:36.2238
DNF 67 Supercheap Auto Racing O.Kelly/P.Morris Holden Commodore VE 62 01:59:53.7839 9 1:36.4207
DNF 3 Sprint Gas Racing J.Bargwanna/M.Noske Holden Commodore VE 46 01:20:00.8432 44 1:36.1338
DNF 33 Garry Rogers Motorsport M.Caruso/L.Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 31 55:57.2151 3 1:35.2642
DNF 8 Team BOC Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 20 35:40.6207 10 1:35.5465
DNF 111 Wilson Security Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon FG 4 6:30.0434 2 1:35.2463
DNF 12 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Holden Commodore VE     

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Also the aforementioned Superbike crash from 2003.

http://www.sbs.com.au/speedweek/watch/v ... sland-2003


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McConvilles huge moment at turn 1



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WHAT THE FUCK!?!?!?! That was only inches away from a horrible fatal crash. Oh my god. :8: :8: :8:


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There are other circuits that are designed similar to PI that have the opportunity for a driver to go straight across into oncoming cars. Circuit Gilles Villeneuve turns 1 and 2 is an example.


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They're probably going to race at Phillip Island again as a replacement for Bahrain being postponed to early next year. They have over 2 months to come up with a solution to prevent the McConville accident from happening again.


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just put a wall there with a large amount of tyres in front of it, doesn't matter how you go off at that corner, it's going to be a big shunt regardless.

And I hardly think if he'd hit the other car it would have been fatal, he'd scrubbed of plenty of speed at that point, talk about being melodramatic.


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You've got to remember how fast Besnard was going at the point where McConville flew across the track. Besnard would be doing at least 200km/h at that point, maybe more, with no chance of reacting to something like that. I'm not sure if it would be fatal, but I don't want to even think about what would happen if David hit him...


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The ironic thing is, if he'd dug in and flipped he probably wouldn't have made it out of the gravel trap....

Maybe this is the only case for a old style, 80s layered sand trap, because its better to flip through turn one and dissapate the energy that way than be t-boned after turn 2.... :8:

Yeah yeah, I know what people are going to say in reply to this, but I know which accident I'd rather choose if I had to... :oops:


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scotty wrote:
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They're probably going to race at Phillip Island again as a replacement for Bahrain being postponed to early next year. They have over 2 months to come up with a solution to prevent the McConville accident from happening again.


Speaking of Bahrain - the V8's (when they go there in February) will be supported by the GP2 Asia Series.


With 20 people watching.


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mclaren2008 wrote:
scotty wrote:
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They're probably going to race at Phillip Island again as a replacement for Bahrain being postponed to early next year. They have over 2 months to come up with a solution to prevent the McConville accident from happening again.


Speaking of Bahrain - the V8's (when they go there in February) will be supported by the GP2 Asia Series.


With 20 people watching.

You are the worst fucking member.

It wouldn't be so bad if all your posts weren't a) worthless, b) shit, c) unfunny, d) irrelevant, and e) wrong, but they are almost always all of the above and I think TBK Light would be a lot better if you just stopped making so many fucking shit posts.

Come on man what the fuck, that is fucking horrible.


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