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Author:  Toto87 [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 11:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
DTMEnthusiast wrote:
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I like this track alot, but I can`t see any grandstand :? How many spectators come to dijon per race - does somebody know?

Well the most popular series which was run before the DTM meeting was the Super Series FFSA and there was only 1 grandstand (main straight).

I went to Dijon-Prenois last year, here are some footages from all the aeras you could access as a spectator (you can't access T1 and the complete last sector)
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-> Download the video (13.5 MB ~ 1 min 24 sec)

They need to built more grandstands !
Author:  steve2000 [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Hey guys ;-)
I think this track looks great!! We need more tracks like this :thumbsup:
Author:  DTMEnthusiast [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Interesting video, thanks for this :thumbsup: In fact i really don't like grandstands so much - I just asked because it will be hard for DTM to sell much tickets if there are not many spectators. And then ITR say next year "no spactators, no race", this would be poor :yuk:
Author:  Metzo [ Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
ITR sucks, they ruined DTM
Author:  DTMEnthusiast [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 2:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Metzo wrote:
ITR sucks, they ruined DTM

In my opinion DTM isn't ruined! Don't always regret the old days. I know it was alot more spectacular, but lets see what future is bringing :wave:
Author:  Scirocco [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Any news on what Albers is doing? he did well in the 06 shotbomb. Would be very compeditive in a faster car.
Author:  Fish88 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Not DTM at least. He wasn't at the AUDI training days, the only possibility to see him race is probably in the new LMES team from Kolles.
Author:  Gimsai [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
DTMEnthusiast wrote:
Metzo wrote:
ITR sucks, they ruined DTM

In my opinion DTM isn't ruined! Don't always regret the old days. I know it was alot more spectacular, but lets see what future is bringing :wave:

I think he meant the (good) old DTM!

My gripe with the current DTM is, as I already mentioned it a thousand times, that the potential is wasted by a bunch of idiots and professsional liars running the series. And I dare to say that DTM more or less stalled for years, I can't remember the last few seasons anything but exciting!
Author:  steve2000 [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
hey guys,
i think the greatest problem is, that today racing is to expensive, so that many teams, cannot survive, same as in f1 its in DTM. They are so little number of competitors, that it normal, that isn't as spectecular as it former was. I think it would need more different teams, like Opel or VW or even skoda, then their would be more competition and less politics, if you look at disaster in last years, like driving with 6 cars only.
greetings
Author:  Gimsai [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
steve2000 wrote:
i think the greatest problem is, that today racing is to expensive, so that many teams, cannot survive, same as in f1 its in DTM. They are so little number of competitors, that it normal, that isn't as spectecular as it former was. I think it would need more different teams, like Opel or VW or even skoda, then their would be more competition and less politics, if you look at disaster in last years, like driving with 6 cars only.

I never quite believed that DTM racing is any way cheap despite their claims and the freezing of a few tech specs.
We all agree that the series needs more manufactures. Problem is, especially now, of course the financial aspect. GM pulled the plug on Opel already in 2005 because of that and MG Rover already missed the 2005 season opener and went bust shortly after that. The never-ending rumor of Alfa Romeo entering is becoming an urban myth and Citroen, I don't know. BMW doesn't want to enter because they say, they're already busy with F1, WTCC, FBMW, Nordschleife 24h and now ALMS. Volkswagen would be stupid to let their own brands (VW, Seat, Skoda, Audi) race against each other!

You see, it's not that simple!
Author:  Metzo [ Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
DTMEnthusiast wrote:
Metzo wrote:
ITR sucks, they ruined DTM

In my opinion DTM isn't ruined!

yes it is, look how awesome DTM was in 2000-2005, now it sucks :C
Author:  DTMEnthusiast [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
I think we are all right, so the typical DTM discussion will never come to an end :lol: Just lets hope for a good 09 season
just 96 days to go... :flag:
Author:  Mattzel89 [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Ralf Schumacher will stay with Mercedes in 2009

http://www.motorsport-total.com/dtm/new ... 21001.html
Author:  Cheeveer [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 5:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Mattzel89 wrote:
Ralf Schumacher will stay with Mercedes in 2009

http://www.motorsport-total.com/dtm/new ... 21001.html


:x
Author:  DTMEnthusiast [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Cheeveer wrote:
Mattzel89 wrote:
Ralf Schumacher will stay with Mercedes in 2009

http://www.motorsport-total.com/dtm/new ... 21001.html


:x

He's not that bad I think :oops:
Author:  Metzo [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Cheeveer wrote:
Mattzel89 wrote:
Ralf Schumacher will stay with Mercedes in 2009

http://www.motorsport-total.com/dtm/new ... 21001.html


:x
lol
Author:  Gimsai [ Tue Feb 10, 2009 9:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Well, a pure PR-decision again! But if we would went with performance alone, we'd had to fire a whole lot more of drivers (especially ex-F1). And if he happen to get a fresh 2009 car the joke is complete!
Author:  Mattzel89 [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
Gimsai wrote:
Well, a pure PR-decision again! But if we would went with performance alone, we'd had to fire a whole lot more of drivers (especially ex-F1). And if he happen to get a fresh 2009 car the joke is complete!


BOOM

http://www.motorsport-total.com/dtm/new ... 21101.html

yes, he gets a 09 spec car
Author:  Fish88 [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
WTF 8O

Does that mean that Gary Paffett will be put in a old car again? Because that would have been one of the worst decision ever in terms of results, in terms of publicity it is pretty good for DTM though as there aren't much known names anymore like Hakkinen and Alesi (Our are they going to yield 5 new cars? Spengler, Di Resta, Green, Schumacher and Paffett).
Author:  Gaara [ Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2009 DTM Discussion
That's bullshit, Ralf hasn't done anything to deserve an '09 car over Paffett.

Ralf's been all surname and no talent.
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