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 Post subject: Re: DTM 2013 | NORISRING
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:15 pm 
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Anyone know why his father did it?


How hot was it in the norisring? Did his dad just want him to have a nice chilled drink? I agree with kals this wasn't an attempt at cheating, metal weights would have been more subtle and effective, but I still think Ekstrom should be disqualified as parc ferme rules can't be broken.


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 Post subject: Re: DTM 2013 | NORISRING
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:20 pm 
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It was Mattias birthday on sunday and in an interview in sweden his father said he did it as a prank. He also says drivers gets sprayed with water all the time after a race.

Link in swedish: http://www.svd.se/sport/vatten-i-fickor ... 346740.svd


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 Post subject: Re: DTM 2013 | NORISRING
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:00 am 
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This is a bit of a laugh, just shows the contrast between the 60's and today

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I watched a video of last weekend's DTM race at the Norisring, thoroughly enjoyed it and clicked off secure in the knowledge that Mattias Ekstrom had scored a significant victory for Audi.

Opening 'Autosport', I discovered that Ekstrom's win has been thrown out. Okay, we've been here many times in F1: McLaren, Ferrari, Lotus (the 'proper' Lotus I mean, not the changed-by-deed-poll but otherwise excellent outfit from Enstone) and several others have had what appeared to be certain wins removed on frustrating and undeniable technicalities. But this one takes some believing.

The Abt Sportsline team was excluded from first place because Ekstrom's dad had poured a bottle of water into his son's left pocket. I'm not kidding.

Racing fathers can be a pain in the ass when expressing totally biased opinion about imagined unfair treatment. But I have to confess it's a new one on me to find the actual parent guilty of causing an outcome he/she would bitch about endlessly had the team screwed up at the expense of young Golden Balls.

This was a breach of DTM parc fermé protocol, particularly with regard to weight. The fact that driver and car weighed in 7kg above the legal limit is irrelevant, even when considering how much difference a sodden left leg will make on the scales. The rules say such things are not permitted on pain of exclusion. And that was that.

The team have appealed, of course. They could claim, I guess, that the left pocket in the Alpinestars race suit is, in fact, a crafty catch tank for coolant. Or Mattias's dad, having spotted a messy pasta stain from lunch, wanted his boy to look smart on the podium to avoid a sharp word from Mrs Ekstrom when he got home. Either of these sound as daft as the offence itself.

Just as well this sort of strict regimentation was not in evidence 400kms to the west of Nuremberg in 1968. When Jackie Stewart won the German Grand Prix in truly appalling conditions at the Nürburgring Nordschleife, he was soaked, literally, to the skin. If the DTM Obergruppenführers had been in charge, the Scot would have been ordered to strip off and wring out his overalls at the end of the pit lane.

Unusually for the Sixties, the driver would be weighed post-race at the Nürburgring, something the Tyrrell team were aware of.

'There was a tradition where they would weigh the winning driver and give the equivalent amount in chocolate to an orphanage,' recalls Neil Davis, Tyrrell's chief mechanic at the time. 'We knew this was going to happen so we filled Jackie's overalls with tools and weights. The organisers were a bit shocked when this wee Scotsman tipped the scales at something like 18 stone!'

I would have paid good money to witness Ken Tyrrell's reaction had an official then dared to suggest Ken had interfered with his driver's clothing. It would have taken more than a bottle of water to put out the ensuing verbal blowtorch.


http://en.espnf1.com/blogs/motorsport/story/117155.html

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 Post subject: Re: DTM 2013 | NORISRING
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:29 pm 
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Ahh the classic 'froth job!'

Great story there!


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DTM should race at tracks like Wunstorf, Diepholz or Singen and not in Moskau or China.


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DTM should race at tracks like Wunstorf, Diepholz or Singen and not in Moskau or China.

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 Post subject: Re: DTM 2013 | NORISRING
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wunstorf is the only track they should bring back as they need a race in northern germany, but its too long with over 5km

diepholz and singen were boring tracks that provided some boring races in the past, almost as bad as todays dtm races. of course you guys would love to see dtm race there


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Wunstorf was awesome.


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So Ekstrom / Audi have lost their appeal against the Norisring disqualification. But at the same time no race winner will now be declared. Which means Robert Wickens is still classified 2nd.

LOL DTM.

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Well this is literally a case of there being a first for everything... which is ironic considering the subject matter related to the comment.

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That has actually happened before, back in 1984 at Hockenheim.

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In this case I think going by NASCAR's book would be okay. Ekström won the race fair and fucking square, but parc ferme rules were broken, so strip them of the points that are deemed necessary. But still regard him as the winner OF THE RACE.

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LOL DTM.


That said, I have to say that Wickens' comments after the race that he was "thrilled to bits" over a win he didn't deserve or was rightfully awarded to makes me no fan of his. Not very sporting.


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DTM: Where nobody wins. Least of all the fans.

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