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PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:52 pm 
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Apparently they've pitched it to all the Supercar teams and had zero interest, the series is very unlikely to actually get off the ground, but they're announcing it in the hope of destabalising the other Formula 5000 series.

So yeah, it's just about making sure the existing 5000 series doesn't happen and become a rival to Supercars that won't even be V8 or have one of the traditional big 2 teams sooner rather than later.

But they have the budget and media backing to pull it off, so it'll probably be Procar all over again.

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codename_47 wrote:
or have one of the traditional big 2 teams sooner rather than later.

Not sure what you're referring to there.


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why not put them together on the track and see what is all about

TC off obviously

I think the Super5000 car has more power and would probably win as a result of that, but it has a fully-blown race engine as opposed to the FT5000 car which I think effectively has a stock block motor in it and should be a lot cheaper and easier to source and maintain.

Either way both the cars should be easily the quickest cars racing in Australia.


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It's sad to see the Supercars series behave like this

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Not the first time they've been douchebags. Remember when they scheduled V8 test days so the drivers could not run the Bathurst 1000?


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Yep, and now they own the 12 hour, wonder if they'll start puposely mismanging it if GT racing becomes too popular

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I don't think they'll care as long as it makes them money.


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Webbo sees through the BS:


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Good news! The competing Formula 5000 recreations will be joining forces. Sanity has prevailed, now hopefully the two previously competing groups can put aside their differences.

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Formula Thunder 5000, Super5000 join forces

Formula Thunder 5000 and Super5000 founders will join forces to work together on developing a Formula 5000 single seater to be raced next year.

Australian open wheel racing had been set for conflict with two Formula 5000 series vying for customers for new single seater series.

Former racer and publisher Chris Lambden announced plans for his Formula Thunder 5000 category last year, which saw him develop an all-new V8 powered car based around a Swift chassis.

However, this looked set to be rivalled by the Supercars backed Super5000 series with the launch of its new bespoke racer, powered by Supercars’ V8 engines and transaxles, last month.

In a bid to ensure a Formula 5000 series returns to Australian soil, Formula Thunder 5000 boss Lambden and Super5000 backer and Wilson Security boss John McMellan have decided to align the two projects.

The move arrives following a meeting between the two facilitated by veteran racer John Bowe.

As a result, a new Formula 5000 car will be developed incorporating beneficial technical elements from both the Formula Thunder 5000 and Super5000 cars.

Work has already commenced on the merged project under the overarching Super5000 project umbrella, with further testing and development planned for both chassis as part of a detailed technical evaluation.

It is anticipated that a combination of elements of both projects along with some new enhancements will result in a revised final technical specification, which will be revealed in the coming months.

“This is the significant step forward which will allow the concept of a modern 5000-style race car and series to actually happen, and happen well, which is what we both started out to do,” said Lambden.

“I am more than pleased with the way we have been able to reach this solution, which I happily endorse and support.

“I’d like to thank John Bowe who, knowing all the parties involved, organised an initial meeting with John McMellan (Wilson).

“It was from this meeting that John McMellan basically said ‘Let’s just get this sorted and find the solution to work together.’

“He then coordinated bringing all the relevant parties together and from there it all came together very quickly and easily.

“The one thing that became apparent quite soon was that we all are primarily what I’d call ‘motorsport people’, and our motivation for getting into all this was the same. It didn’t take that long to agree a sensible way forward.

“I’d really like to acknowledge and thank everyone who has supported our efforts to date and reassure them that this outcome will result in a ‘5000-style’ race car and series that will be well worth coming to see.”

McMellan believes the decision to join forces will result in a successful V8 powered open wheel racing series.

“I think it’s important to highlight that the team at PAYCE, who are involved in the development of the Super5000, have been responsible for the progress that has been made in getting both parties aligned,” said McMellan.

“I merely assisted in the parties coming together after JB and I met with Chris. This decision to work together is a credit to their vision and flexibility.

“It’s also good to have Chris on board, who will play a role in the ongoing technical discussion.

“An outcome such as this will only result in a better outcome both commercially and technically as well as for the sport.

“The project team will take the best elements of both designs and thinking along with some other new thoughts to ensure we have a stand-out category that results in exciting, fast and action-packed open-wheeler racing.”

It is anticipated that Formula 5000 cars will be racing midway through the 2018 campaign.

I'm hoping this does get off the ground, having a fast and exciting open wheel series is what this country has been lacking. I'm still a little bit doubtful that this will work considering how dead open wheel racing has been in Australia for the past 20 years or so, and also because we already have the Supercars, GT3 and Carrera Cup. I imagine it could become very expensive too, so they will have to be careful in that regard.

In any case whatever car they come up with should be seriously quick, considering it will most likely have 500+ hp and a pretty low weight given that it's an open wheeler. I think that should draw in good drivers (though I suppose the top drivers will be more or less locked away in the and help generate more interest in the crowds then Formula 3 and 4 have in the past.


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I'll believe it when I see it; you don't usually put 2 sets of egos each with their own dream for a racing series together and get productive results. If they do get something going hopefully it's got the Super5000's looks on the FT5000's budget.

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As long as they keep the costs down, and don't use freaking traction control I think it would be successful.


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Philthy82 wrote:
I'll believe it when I see it; you don't usually put 2 sets of egos each with their own dream for a racing series together and get productive results. If they do get something going hopefully it's got the Super5000's looks on the FT5000's budget.


Yeah, I really hope they can keep the retro look of the Super 5000. The other one just looks...wrong, like a modern day chassis with a huge airbox, for retro purposes.


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Yes. Yes they should do that.

What is it up to now, formula ten thousand or something? :innocent:

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Formula Ten Thousand has a good ring to it

Would they have 10 litre V8 engines?


Keeping with the re-use theme, I think the obvious answer is two 5l V8s stitched togethe :metal:


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gkmotorsport wrote:
Keeping with the re-use theme, I think the obvious answer is two 5l V8s stitched togethe :metal:

That would be a 10 litre V16 though.


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Bring it on, I say.


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simonracer wrote:
gkmotorsport wrote:
Keeping with the re-use theme, I think the obvious answer is two 5l V8s stitched togethe :metal:

That would be a 10 litre V16 though.


My maths is clearly terrible, but I stand by my accidental idea :flag:


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http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/09/11/super5000-set-sandown-500-demo/

This will be interesting to see. I'm a bit confused as to whether or not this will be the new combination car or the Super5000 one that was constructed prior to the merger.


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Video of the demo laps for FT5000 at Gold Coast
https://www.facebook.com/FT5000/videos/ ... 247487284/


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Sounds great, not a fan of the rear wing, I preferred the look of the other one

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