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Author:  Tommy Vercetti [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:17 am ]
Post subject:  2012 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach

Hope you all enjoyed your Easter break, because the IndyCar stars and cars return to the American version of Monaco: the streets of Long Beach

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Schedule:
Friday, April 13

7 a.m. - Gates open
7:15 a.m. - Tequila Patron American Le Mans Series (ALMS) practice
9:35 a.m. - Team Drifting Challenge
10 a.m. - IZOD IndyCar Series Practice
11:15 a.m. - Toyota Pro/Celebrity Race Practice
12 p.m. - Firestone Indy Lights (FIL) Practice
2:15 p.m. - IndyCar Practice
3:30 p.m. - Toyota Pro/Celebrity Qualifying
4 p.m. - IZOD IndyCar Series Autograph Session (IndyCar Paddock - FREE to all race ticket holders)
4:15 p.m. - Pirelli World Challenge (PWC) Practice
5 p.m. - ALMS Qualifying
6:30 p.m. - Tecate Light Fiesta Friday Concert Starring Belanova

Saturday, April 14

7 a.m. - Gates open
7:15 a.m. - PWC Practice
8 a.m. - FIL Practice
8:55 a.m. - Team Drifting Challenge
10:25 a.m. - IndyCar Practice
11:40 a.m. - Toyota Pro/Celebrity Race
12:30 p.m. - ALMS Driver Autograph Session in Lifestyle Expo
12:55 p.m. - FIL Qualifying
2 p.m. - IndyCar Qualifying and Firestone Fast Six
3:55 p.m. - ALMS Pre-Race
4:30 p.m. - Tequila Patron American Le Mans Series Race (2 hours)
6:45 p.m. - Tecate Light Rock-N-Roar Concert Starring Joan Jett & The Blackhearts

Sunday, April 15

7 a.m. - Gates open
8 a.m. - FIL Practice
8:25 a.m. - PWC Qualifying
9:15 a.m. - IndyCar Practice
10:45 a.m. - Firestone Indy Lights Race
12:30 p.m. - IndyCar Pre-Race Ceremonies
1:15 p.m. (Approx.) - Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach IZOD IndyCar Series Race (85 laps)
3:40 p.m. - Team Drifting Challenge
4:15 p.m. - Pirelli World Challenge Race (1 hour)

Schedule subject to change without notice.

On a personal note, I will be attending the festivities for the race weekend. Will post pictures when I get the chance.

Author:  codename_47 [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:21 pm ]
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If its a boring race this time, I promise I'll blame the track, as I've seen so many races here over the years that I'm convinced it lost a lot of racing action the second they altered the track from turning right at turn 1 to turning left at turn 1.

That final hairpin does a lot for making sure the cars can't get a good tow down the long front straight, for whatever reason....

Still, you never know, it might rain or something! :lol:

Author:  cookie [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 3:44 pm ]
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I've never seen a really good race at Long Beach (just like St. Petersburg), so I'm not expecting much.

Author:  Fish88 [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:04 pm ]
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True. Great track but no real good races. But then again Alabama last year was horrible and this year was awesome, so maybe.

Author:  ellis [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:05 pm ]
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They should cut out corners 1 to 4. Go straight down shoreline drive and do a hairpin.

Author:  codename_47 [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:05 pm ]
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The Zanardi years were epic and obviously anything in the Classic Era (Pre-1996 I guess) was pretty good too....

Author:  Tommy Vercetti [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:12 pm ]
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codename_47 wrote:
Still, you never know, it might rain or something! :lol:


Funny you mention that...forecast for Friday and Saturday says rain. Sunday's dry, tho.

Author:  sennadesillva [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:41 pm ]
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hopefully itll shake up qualifying and give us some passing on race day then

Author:  codename_47 [ Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:05 pm ]
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Tommy Vercetti wrote:
codename_47 wrote:
Still, you never know, it might rain or something! :lol:


Funny you mention that...forecast for Friday and Saturday says rain. Sunday's dry, tho.


I don't think I've ever seen a wet Long Beach.....maybe a wet practice session or two back in the "Race Director" era, but never a wet race....

That would change everything! :p

Author:  Tommy Vercetti [ Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:26 am ]
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It's gonna suck for me, tho. Gonna buy me some ponchos.

Author:  De Cesaris fan [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:55 pm ]
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I love Long Beach, although I'm not 100% sure why. I can't really remember many good races at all. Maybe it's fond memories of playing the original Indycar game. :p

The 1983 F1 race was pretty mental. One of my favourites. I still don't know how Rosberg saved the car at the 4 minute mark.

Author:  phil1993 [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:57 pm ]
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Gonna be the typical lazy arsehole, what time does this start UK time? I'm booking the whole of Sunday in front of the TV :p

Author:  Gauthier [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:18 pm ]
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Non great races? What about ALMS 2010 with Pagenaud vs Fernandez? :flag:

Author:  Chris D [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:09 pm ]
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Chevy is changing all 11 engines this weekend. Grid penalties will be fun to see.

Author:  NVirkkula [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:43 pm ]
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Chris D wrote:
Chevy is changing all 11 engines this weekend. Grid penalties will be fun to see.



Lotus and Bourdais are going to win! :flag:

Author:  herdez [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:51 pm ]
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NVirkkula wrote:
Chris D wrote:
Chevy is changing all 11 engines this weekend. Grid penalties will be fun to see.



Lotus and Bourdais are going to win! :flag:


I read, Bourdais also 10 place grid penalty, also engine change

Author:  Tommy Vercetti [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:04 pm ]
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Chris D wrote:
Chevy is changing all 11 engines this weekend. Grid penalties will be fun to see.


Oh boy, that will be fun.

Author:  Cheeveer [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:04 pm ]
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This will probably make Indycar rethink their 10 grid spot penalty rule.

Author:  Juihi [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:20 pm ]
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wow 8O



update on the situation

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LONG BEACH, Calif. -- Most Chevrolet personnel skipped lunch in the IZOD IndyCar Series paddock April 12 as they were busy trading out all 11 V-6 engines in cars entered in the 38th Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach.

The decision was made following the tear down and inspection of the engine in the No. 27 GoDaddy.com car of Andretti Autosport that experienced an issue during a team April 9 at Infineon Raceway.

Per the IZOD IndyCar Series rulebook, each of the 11 entries will be levied a 10-grid position penalty to start the 85-lap race April 15 on the 1.968-mile, 11-turn temporary street circuit because of an unapproved engine change. Rules 15.3.1 and 15.6.1.1 outline the penalty for a change-out if the engine has not reached its minimum mileage threshold of 1,850 miles.

"We are still learning the limitations of the new engine controls calibration," said Chris Berube, Chevrolet Racing's IZOD IndyCar Series program manager. "Through our testing in Sonoma, as indicated by an engine issue, we uncovered a problem that we believe could affect all engines. So, as a result, we feel it is prudent to change all engines prior to the start of the on-track activities this weekend."

Team owner/driver Ed Carpenter was philosophical when informed of the penalty.

"It's definitely going to make things interesting," Carpenter said. "It's obviously not ideal, but we're all playing by the same rules. It's the safest choice and, even though we're starting at a disadvantage from the get-go, it's better than potentially having an issue later on. It's a learning process for all of us, and it's not a decision they made lightly."

Berube echoed that sentiment.

"We intently discussed the situation with our partners and our teams prior to determining that this was the best course of action to preserve the integrity of the racing in the IZOD IndyCar Series," he said.

Through the first two races, Chevrolet's 2.2-liter, twin-turbocharged V-6 engine has recorded two victories and two poles (one of each by Team Penske's Helio Castroneves and Will Power). Castroneves is the series championship points leader by two over Scott Dixon of Honda-powered Target Chip Ganassi Racing.

Others affected by the decision: Ryan Hunter-Reay, James Hinchcliffe and Marco Andretti of Andretti Autosport; Rubens Barrichello, Tony Kanaan and E.J. Viso of KV Racing Technology; JR Hildebrand of Panther Racing and Ryan Briscoe of Team Penske.

“I was already penalized the 10 spots before the decision to change out all Chevy engines," said James Hinchcliffe, driver of the No. 27 car. "It’s a bummer, but now at least I’m not alone. There will now be some good racing happening mid-pack. The engine mileage rule is a tremendous engineering challenge and ultimately helps improve technology for the automotive industry.

"In an era of multiple manufacturers you sometimes have to exceed limits to know where they truly are. Chevy has been an incredible partner since the new cars arrived. They have won the first two races, from pole, and I’m proud to wear the bowtie on my chest. It would be easy to complain about how harsh (the penalty) is, but I think the attitude of everyone on the Go Daddy crew is that when the going gets tough, it’s time to nut up, buckle down and push hard for the best result possible. And that’s exactly what we’re going to do.”

On April 11, the IZOD IndyCar Series announced that the No. 7 Lotus Dragon Racing car driven by three-time Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach winner would incur the same penalty for changing the Lotus engine following the Honda Indy Grand Prix of Alabama. He finished a season-high ninth.



http://www.indycar.com/News/2012/April/ ... 11-engines




Gotta wonder how they will cope on the ovals which are on the rev-limiter most of the time

Author:  sennadesillva [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:09 am ]
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i wonder who will just only do a couple laps in qualifying say screw their starting spot and try some crazy fuel and red tire saving strategy.

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