2011 IndyCar Season Discussion

Tommy Vercetti · PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:10 pm

codename_47 wrote:

Cleveland coming back would be so awesome, the greatest track for racing ever!
Long straights+wide corners+nothing to hit=drivers throwing it down the inside, running wide, being repassed, trying again at the next corner, etc. (Plus occasional lol worthy Clusterfucks at the start!) Amazing.

Would do anything to see it back, sadly I fear not, even that "half oval, half road course" event stunt didn't seem to do it

Even as a Champcar fan back in the day, one who thought it was a shame that series only got to run 2 ovals a year in its dying days (then just one...then....*sigh*) I recognise that a North American series needs to have at LEAST 40% of its races on ovals...

Don't quote me on this, but a guy I know on another forum said that the mayor and those who run the Cleveland GP are still anti-IRL. Chances are, as much as I really want IndyCar to run at Burke Lakefront Airport, it's not gonna happen.

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:02 pm

ellis wrote:

Yeah, the choice was Ferrari or Williams. I remember Jean saying his head said Williams, his heart said Ferrari.

One thing you always knew about Alesi is that he always went with his heart! Showed with his driving too.

I'd love to see him do well at Indy, of course, he was my favorite as long as he raced in F1, but I can't help to think that KV will have to repair many cars that month. If they keep Sato and Viso too.

cambridge · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:41 am

Black_Jack wrote:

cambridge wrote:

StefMeister wrote:

Jean Alesi has now confirmed that he will run the Indy 500 next year.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94731

"The Former useless F1 driver and former useless DTM driver Jean Alesi will run a useless race in the 2012 Indy 500"

He wasn't useless, those lousy Ferraris in the early 90s amongst other teams he drove for later on is what held him back. I think I remember Jean considering Williams at one point before choosing Ferrari? Imagine what could have been...

so not only was useless but also pretty stupid :flag:

anyway, i'm seriously concerned for is life, he is 47 and has never driven on an oval track, something similar to Nelson Piquet's adventure in indy wich ended pretty badly.

Black_Jack · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:15 am

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so not only was useless but also pretty stupid :flag:

Actually signing with Ferrari in '91 wasn't a bad idea for the time when they were expected to have another championship season like the year previous.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:23 am

He could have gone to Williams in 91

Gabriel · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:26 am

cambridge wrote:

anyway, i'm seriously concerned for is life, he is 47 and has never driven on an oval track, something similar to Nelson Piquet's adventure in indy wich ended pretty badly.

But you have to realize that indycars in '92 were much more difficult to drive that today's Dallara and most likely the new car won't be any different. Even fucking Saavedra went sideways out of 2 this year in bump day and didn't crashed. You just have to be one of those useless drivers that use to crash everytime, everywhere or have a mechanical failure to end up in the wall on your own at Indy. And Alesi isn't useless.

Juihi · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:16 am

mclaren2008 wrote:

He could have gone to Williams in 91

Hindsights a wonderful thing....

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:55 pm

Scotty wrote:

Yet he could of been smashed at Williams by his teammate and never returned to F1. Analyzing things that never happened is pretty pointless.

It can be fun though. Remember, Alesi was very much an old school racer, stubbornly keeping to traditional gear shifters instead of paddles etc, so Alesi in the ultra high tech Williams' '91-'93 would be far from a match made in heaven. But put him in an Indycar.... Too bad he's far from his peak now.

Gaara · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:40 pm

Wheldon replacing Tags at Kentucky

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94863

Chris D · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:17 pm

Scheckter's driving the #57 SFR car at Vegas, sponsor is Angie's List.

Black_Jack · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:30 pm

buster hymen wrote:

Scheckter's driving the #57 SFR car at Vegas, sponsor is Angie's List.

SFR investing in having Tomas in the 67 for next year wouldn't be a bad idea. If I'm Carpenter I would start talking with Foyt and see if Honda could fork over enough money to run the 41 at all the ovals next year.

sennadesillva · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:24 pm

anyone keeping track of how many cars were up to for vegas so far?

De Cesaris fan · PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:30 pm

Gaara wrote:

Wheldon replacing Tags at Kentucky

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94863

That's rather nice of Tags to give his seat up. Not so much of a wanker now.

iks · PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:44 am

I just watched the start of the Indy Lights race at Laguna Seca from 1998 and the cars were aligned perfectly. Amazing that those drivers could do better starts than...

StefMeister · PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:15 am

cambridge wrote:

something similar to Nelson Piquet's adventure in indy wich ended pretty badly.

Also worth remembering that before the crash Piquet had been pretty quick.

There has also been a fair few Ex-F1 drivers who have run at Indy without issue before & since (Nigel Mansell the following year for instance).

I think those who followed F1 closely at the time Alesi was around would proberly all say that Alesi almost certainly had more talent than looking at just his results would let you believe.

The Ferrari, Especially in 1992 was not only slow but also ridiculously unreliable & when they started to find the speed in 1994/95 it was still ridiculously unreliable & Alesi lost at least 3 possibilities at a win due to the car failing.

Also seem to recall him been fairly evenly matched to Alain Prost in terms of pace quite a few times through 1991.

Beezle · PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:39 am

sennadesillva wrote:

anyone keeping track of how many cars were up to for vegas so far?

I guess 34 at the start of the race.

And I expect 8 in the end.

They should have picked Bristol for the final Dallara Destruction Derby.

Tommy Vercetti · PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:44 am

But then there would be no cars left by the time they reach halfway.

codename_47 · PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:24 pm

Sadly I'm expecting it to go a lot like the Texas letdown, big fanfare but once the green drops some dull racing.

Would love to be proved wrong though.

sennadesillva · PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:14 pm

Beezle wrote:

sennadesillva wrote:

anyone keeping track of how many cars were up to for vegas so far?

I guess 34 at the start of the race.

And I expect 8 in the end.

They should have picked Bristol for the final Dallara Destruction Derby.

LOL thats kinda where i was headed with my post. i have a feeling there will be alot of accidents but hopefully not just some good racing for once

smokyburnout · PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:59 pm

The new car in low-downforce spec testing at Indy:

...and at Iowa:

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/indycar-its-a-fun-car-encourages-you-to-attack-wheldon

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