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See if you look at the video posted by myself I would say it was driver error. However, I personally do not see him at fault. As I have said though. Everything is raw and I won’t say anything else on it

I don't even have anything to say, I just want to be around people who "get" why this is a very gutting moment in Motorsports fandom

These guys put everything on the line just for us to be entertained.

Yes, they're in it for personal glory too, but this is so rare these days that it's a complete bolt out of the blue when it happens

Stay strong, fellow fans. If you need to talk about what you're trying to process, particularly if this is your first time, reach out to someone My Dms are open too if anyone can't find anyone else to share this terrible time with

RIP Antoine.

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I know "F2" has rebranded and renamed several times over the years, but when was the last time a driver died in a crash in the second-tier series? Was it Campos in 1995?

Yes, but can we blame Alesi for Hubert's death?
Magnussen crashed the same way a few years ago, and is still not the worst F1 driver ever.

Yep.

Lots of close calls, but Campos was the last.

It will be interesting to see how the sporting authorities carry out the rest of the weekend.

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Marco Simoncelli ¦ 1987-2011
Jules Bianchi ¦ 1989-2015
Justin Wilson ¦ 1978-2015

Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Oh, I wasn't blaming him at all. I'm just imagining what it must feel like to be in his position. Like I said in my original post, he did nothing wrong, but it's almost impossible for someone to not at least entertain the thought of, "if I hadn't spun..."

Watching live, I noticed a car 2-3 spots ahead of him slide a little bit. It kinda surprised me because I assumed these cars were easily flat out through Eau Rouge. Do the F2 cars have a lot less downforce than the F1 cars?

Yeah it would be. I think he was the only driver who died in the main F3000 series. Prior to that it was Hans-Georg Burger in 1980

I don't think you can blame Alesi as such.
I'm just saying that maybe in that particular moment the car was too tough to handle for him as a lot of cars in front of him were also grounding quite a lot and became unstable.

Henry Surtees?

Damn, just heard from a friend and saw the video with the impact. Really really terrible news. RIP

Christ Almighty, that shit EDM blasting like that the whole time?

I know that was technically a series called F2, but that iteration of the series wasn't anywhere close to the second-tier (GP2) in 2009, right?

I always feel for the other drivers in these situations yes. Both Justin Wilson and Henry Surtees accidents were caused by a driver innocently losing their car on their own and causing terrible consequences and now Alesi must be going through the same thing.
Antoine's loss is a tragedy of course but Alesi and Correra have to live with the weight of this now.
It's not their fault at all but human nature will probably mean they will blame themselves for circumstances out of their control, so I hope they have a good support network around them to keep their heads up, under the circumstances.

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIaKIE ... 5t9d5PvoHA

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http://www.twitter.com/paulhadsley

Yeah, it was just a branding thing because no-one was using the F2 name in that era.

They were basically formula palmer audi cars, maybe with a bit more power. It might have been barely on F3's level, but that was what it created to do really, confused the ladder system to milk the money of rich racing fathers who don't know the ins and outs of motorsport and send their kid and their money to Dr Palmer in the misguided belief they were one step away from F1

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RIP Birmingham Wheels: here's some of the crash videos I recorded when it was there:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIaKIE ... 5t9d5PvoHA

Twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/paulhadsley

Come to think of it...maybe there was debris on the track after first lap from Lafiti's car? You can even see the leader go really on the edge of both inside and outside kerbs of the Raidillion.


Not that it changes anything, though. We probably know more tomorrow and based on that it's decided if there's any changes or activity on track or not.

For the first time I don't feel like I want to watch anything tomorrow.

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today for a fatal crash to happen it needs a sad sequence of mishaps, it has to be a very bizarre thing but it still can happen

no one is to blame, I hope FIA doesn't start blaming the drivers like they did with Bianchi though

anyway RIP

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Oh the FIA will find a way to absolve themselves of any responsibility, not that they are responsible for this one, shit happens sometimes and as many of us have been saying for years, you simply cannot health and safety regulate this kind of accident out of existence, fate has a funny way of reminding you of that.

This is so sad. When I saw it, I thought it was bad, but you almost become used to seeing drivers escaping from these spectacular accidents. It still shocked me when the news came through. Shocking. Thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends.

There's probably some sort of exotic material or alloy that they could build the tubs out of to withstand two or more impacts but it would obviously be cost-prohibitive to do so.

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Marco Simoncelli ¦ 1987-2011
Jules Bianchi ¦ 1989-2015
Justin Wilson ¦ 1978-2015

Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

It's a video game era. These days drivers have to "look at the data" before accepting even 1% blame for any crash. I'm sure Alesi will find a thousand valid excuses why it wasn't a driver error.

James Hunt blamed Patrese for Peterson's death for 15 years so spare me the high morals.

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