Some bonehead driving today (Rahal, Hunter Reay, Franchitti, Newgarden, etc) but I have to say this race was 10/10. Classic race!
I really wanted Sato to win or at least get a podium.
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| Author: | iks [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach |
Some bonehead driving today (Rahal, Hunter Reay, Franchitti, Newgarden, etc) but I have to say this race was 10/10. Classic race! I really wanted Sato to win or at least get a podium.
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| Author: | Raikkon [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach |
Anyway, all in all, great race. Like it has already been said, usually when the F1 sucks, Indy rules, and vice versa. I guess today we were ultra lucky!! |
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| Author: | iks [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach |
And the hairpin parking lot was awesome as well...Power stopping there was perfect! 
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| Author: | Vassago [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:44 pm ] |
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Helio also got 30 secs. penalty and dropped to 13th. |
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| Author: | tickyour [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach |
That's some vintage IndyCar stuff.  Hope this is a sign of things to come for the future of the series.
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| Author: | Tommy Vercetti [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach |
Back home again from Long Beach... -The Indy Lights series was predictibly boring. Seriously, these cars are so underpowered that the racing quality suffers from it. No yellows, but no action. -Then, there's the IndyCar race. Holy shit, what a race. Strategy, action, and retarded moves. It's easily the best race of the day and the second best race of the weekend. There's an incident during the 24th lap from hell where Katherine Legge ran off into the tire barriers before entering the parking lot. Unfortunately, the track did not show replays of what exactly happened there and I'm not sure if NBC Sports noticed it. I sure did notice Tags with damage from that restart from doom. And Jossef Newgarden has officially won me over. Too bad his race was over one turn in because of his own mistake, but he'll learn. -Unfortunately, the day had to end with the worst World Challenge race I've ever seen, on stream, on TV, or even live in person. At least I marked (kind of) when the Caddy won overall, but you'd think they have some timing information on the trackside jumbotrons... |
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| Author: | Juihi [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach |
Was waiting to see when Dixon's horrid early season luck would strike! but all in all it was actually a pretty good race, not sure how Power saved that much!  I think a combo of him being awesome at it and the Chevy engine having bloody great fuel milage, will be very interesting on the ovals!
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| Author: | sennadesillva [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:58 am ] |
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i loooove how helio ryan and ej were all penalized for contact with another car yet dario was given the ok. that pissed me off. other than that damn good race this is gonna be a great year i cant wait til Brazil! |
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| Author: | Tommy Vercetti [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:25 am ] |
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sennadesillva wrote: i loooove how helio ryan and ej were all penalized for contact with another car yet dario was given the ok. that pissed me off. other than that damn good race this is gonna be a great year i cant wait til Brazil! To be honest, it was Jossef's fault. Dario was off the hook and accordingly so. |
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| Author: | Juihi [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:43 am ] |
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It was a brave move and unfortunately didn't work out, I'd just call it a racing incident |
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| Author: | sennadesillva [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:06 am ] |
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eh they touched. maybe a bit less so than the others but still. you guys have to admit he gets away with alot more than others. last years LB grand prix is a good example even. it just seems that his was ok yet every other instance of contact a penalty was handed out. im sick of it so im picky about anything involving him i guess haha |
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| Author: | Juihi [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:10 am ] |
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I do agree Dario does get lucky quite often, nothing against him though, bloody fast driver! |
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| Author: | Tommy Vercetti [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:12 am ] |
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Yeah, he is quick. Not today, tho, that incident totally fucked it up. |
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| Author: | sennadesillva [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:18 am ] |
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givin his speed on the straights and his complaining about HP i dont think that incident had much to do with it. he got more damage from the restart contact with briscoe than the newgarden incident |
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| Author: | sennadesillva [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:23 am ] |
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i know u were at the race tommy but on tv they were reporting that dario was complaining about the lack of power in his engine about midway through the race. at first they tried to play it off as "fuel saving mode" but once he got destroyed on a couple restarts they admitted he was worried about his engine |
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| Author: | Tommy Vercetti [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:34 am ] |
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That explains why he was crap at the restarts. Never thought of that. I don't have a scanner on me to listen to Dario's conversations, so I assumed that his bodywork got damaged. Final batch of photos. Gonna work on uploading some videos later: https://plus.google.com/photos/10338868 ... 1360066673 |
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| Author: | sennadesillva [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:50 am ] |
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just throwing out why i got my opinions cuz im sure u didnt hear that while being at the track. great pics the whole time. my uncle lives literally less that 5 miles from the track but i havent been able to make it the last couple year cuz of health crap and then before that cuz of work. last time i made it there AND got good pics was like 01 or 02. i hope next year i can meet up with you! |
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| Author: | Tommy Vercetti [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:42 am ] |
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Ah, I hope so, too. |
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| Author: | westracing01 [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach |
Watched this race on tape. Couple of thoughts... 1) Really entertaining race. The opening of the pits I thought actually added some spice and strategy mix. 2) As for Marco's crash... Not good. What, to me anyway, appeared to launch the car was the bottom tray as it extends past the front of the sidepod. After his wheel ran up Grahams that part of the car seemed to hit the tire and propel it upwards. More worrisome than that was the fact they were doing maybe all of 120mph in that section of track and the car actually seemed to lift from aerodynamic effects. At the slow speed they were going his car should have fallen like a rock, yet, it did not. Get rid of the flat bottom trays and mold them to the same shape as the car's sidepods. That will reduce the amount downforce and reduce the area of car susceptible to catching air. |
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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 2012 Toyota Grand Prix of Long Beach |
I really wouldn't jump any conclusions about Andretti/Rahal incident. The car just got in the air because of a wheels touching, which could have happened to any type of race cars. We've all seen worse and the talk is on only because it's IndyCars. No one's talking about new nosecone regulations and Webber's incidents in 2010 Valencia or 2012 China. For example. And this compilation has quite many of them. |
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