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Author:  ptclaus98 [ Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:24 pm ]
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ellis wrote:
I'm liking the *huge* jump between Skip Barber and Indy Lights there. Many fatals will occur. Star Mazda please!

Going from a car with less than 150 hp and tiny wings to one with 450 and massive ones? What's the worst that could happen?

Author:  ellis [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:11 am ]
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If there are enough drivers to fill the spots and enough teams to provide the cars, there isn't too many series. And you can't just condense them down because a lot series don't have interchangeable chassis and telling a team "Well go bin everything you own and buy a new car" is a great way of killing off teams.

Author:  racer69 [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:13 am ]
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ptclaus98 wrote:
Going from a car with less than 150 hp and tiny wings to one with 450 and massive ones? What's the worst that could happen?


In Australia many a driver jumps straight out of a little Formula Ford and into a V8Supercar. Garth Tander being one such example, and he was competitive straight away.


ellis wrote:
If there are enough drivers to fill the spots and enough teams to provide the cars, there isn't too many series. And you can't just condense them down because a lot series don't have interchangeable chassis and telling a team "Well go bin everything you own and buy a new car" is a great way of killing off teams.


That is a part of the prblem, too many spec series

Author:  ptclaus98 [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too many Lower Open-Wheel series ?

racer69 wrote:
ptclaus98 wrote:
Going from a car with less than 150 hp and tiny wings to one with 450 and massive ones? What's the worst that could happen?


In Australia many a driver jumps straight out of a little Formula Ford and into a V8Supercar. Garth Tander being one such example, and he was competitive straight away.

A 450 hp open wheel wings and slicks car is a lot different than a touring car with a park bench on the trunk.

Author:  gd49 [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Too many Lower Open-Wheel series ?

racer69 wrote:
ptclaus98 wrote:
Going from a car with less than 150 hp and tiny wings to one with 450 and massive ones? What's the worst that could happen?


In Australia many a driver jumps straight out of a little Formula Ford and into a V8Supercar. Garth Tander being one such example, and he was competitive straight away.


But isn't that because there really isn't anything else to go to in Australia? Admittedly I'm fully up to date with the open wheel series in that part of the world, but last time I was, Australian F3 and the Asian Open Wheel series were all pretty weak, with few drivers and a very low level of competiton. For most Aussie drivers, presumably the choice is Europe for open wheel or move into V8Supercar. If anything one might argue Australia and Asia have too few open wheel series.


racer69 wrote:
ellis wrote:
If there are enough drivers to fill the spots and enough teams to provide the cars, there isn't too many series. And you can't just condense them down because a lot series don't have interchangeable chassis and telling a team "Well go bin everything you own and buy a new car" is a great way of killing off teams.


That is a part of the prblem, too many spec series


What would you suggest, getting teams to make their own cars? Is there any series outside F1 which does this? The need to incorporate effective, modern aerodynamics, in order to make the series a meaningful learning experience, would put this above the financial abilities of most teams/drivers wouldn't it?

Author:  KingOfChins [ Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:21 pm ]
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gd49 wrote:
racer69 wrote:
ellis wrote:
If there are enough drivers to fill the spots and enough teams to provide the cars, there isn't too many series. And you can't just condense them down because a lot series don't have interchangeable chassis and telling a team "Well go bin everything you own and buy a new car" is a great way of killing off teams.


That is a part of the prblem, too many spec series


What would you suggest, getting teams to make their own cars? Is there any series outside F1 which does this? The need to incorporate effective, modern aerodynamics, in order to make the series a meaningful learning experience, would put this above the financial abilities of most teams/drivers wouldn't it?

Actually I think he meant too many different specs.

Author:  BenAD [ Wed Apr 28, 2010 2:30 am ]
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gd49 wrote:
But isn't that because there really isn't anything else to go to in Australia? Admittedly I'm fully up to date with the open wheel series in that part of the world, but last time I was, Australian F3 and the Asian Open Wheel series were all pretty weak, with few drivers and a very low level of competiton. For most Aussie drivers, presumably the choice is Europe for open wheel or move into V8Supercar. If anything one might argue Australia and Asia have too few open wheel series.


I dont know about that, Australia is struggling just to keep F3 going, there is just no commerical support here for motorsport, especially single seater. Alot of young guys are going through F3 now, mainly because it is now the Australian Drivers Championship.

Author:  BenAD [ Thu Apr 29, 2010 2:43 am ]
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Yeah thats not a bad idea... What I'd really love is for one hd to push F3 (or whatever is our australian drivers championship).. I mean we have drivers as the highest levels of open wheel racing in europe and the states, surely they can use that angle...

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