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IndyCar Series @ Texas Motor Speedway (Twin 275's)
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Author:  Raikkon [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:46 am ]
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Wooo Power wins on an oval!! (Yayy got both Pick'ems winners correct!!)
Author:  Gaara [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:46 am ]
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Power wins on an oval.
Author:  Gabriel [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:48 am ]
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lame
Author:  Raikkon [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:48 am ]
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No yellows that race!! Crazy!!

What happened to all the wrecks at Texas?!!
Author:  Ospi [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:57 am ]
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Power, Legend!
Author:  StefMeister [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:07 am ]
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Don't really like the 2 race format, Really broke up the flow of the race & I thought each race was a bit too short.

I was just starting to really get into the 1st race & then it ended & we were left with over an hour of sitting around watching a random draw which went on too long & was rather tedious (Would have been even worse if le Mans wasn't on).

Also didn't really like the random draw considering its still a championship race. Why should a championship potentially be decided later in the year off a result caused because one guy drew a bad starting spot while the other got lucky by drawing a good spot.


I'd rather just go back to having one 225 lap race which you can sit down & really get into.
Author:  Raikkon [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:09 am ]
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Yeahhh it was a bit mickey mouse. Each race did feel a bit short, and you can kinda see what Franchitti was saying about the random draw.
Author:  Gaara [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:15 am ]
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But if Dario had drawn 3rd and Power 28th, he wouldn't complain.

Besides he lost points running out of fuel at Indy.
Author:  Juihi [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:18 am ]
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I think the reverse grid idea would be a better option
Author:  Scirocco [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:19 am ]
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Marco was very good, if he didn't draw 27th and if there was a yellow he could of been a contender with his favoured high line. Looks like Andretti Autosport might have found out where they are missing speed as all 4 showed better speed in race 2.
Author:  racer69 [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:42 am ]
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I actually would have preferred each of the races to be shorter, maybe down to 90 laps each so it only required the 1 stop. The two race format was something different, has a long history in Indy-type racing and I would love to see it adopted at another track or two (not too many others though, keep it as a novelty)

A reverse grid for race 2 would probably have been fairer, but to be honest the IRL are trying something new to get some attention for the series, and like the double-file restarts the drivers just should suck it up and have a crack at it, the series needs to build the fanbase, and drivers whinging isn't going to help anyone.

PS... some more pathetic race starts to follow that rubbish at Indy, the likes of Tagliani (especially as he's know a double offender) & Kanaan need to be fined for the those starts to stop people doing it again and spoiling the starts. NASCAR doesn't seem to have a problem with the starts....
Author:  ellis [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:52 am ]
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Gaara wrote:
But if Dario had drawn 3rd and Power 28th, he wouldn't complain.

Besides he lost points running out of fuel at Indy.


Random grid draws have no place in proper motorsport anyway. The only reason for it is to be entertaining over a sport (which is a stupid idea), but it wasn't even entertaining anyway.
Author:  Gaara [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:54 am ]
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I agree, was just pointing that out though. With drivers it's good when it benefits you and bad when it doesn't.
Author:  ptclaus98 [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:00 am ]
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Dario should quit bitching. There's a whole half a season to go. If this had been done at Vegas, with points actually on the line, then he'd have had a point. But at this point it's academic because he still controls his own destiny. Besides, he won the first damn race. Not like it completely fucked him over.
Author:  ptclaus98 [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:06 am ]
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ellis wrote:
Gaara wrote:
But if Dario had drawn 3rd and Power 28th, he wouldn't complain.

Besides he lost points running out of fuel at Indy.


Random grid draws have no place in proper motorsport anyway. The only reason for it is to be entertaining over a sport (which is a stupid idea), but it wasn't even entertaining anyway.

I'd rather have the entertainment. Leave the sport for the purists and their club racing. IndyCar needs every bit of buzz they can get. This not only gave the opportunity for a mixed grid, it also gave an opportunity for IndyCar's characters to ham it up. Hinch was great when he did his draw. Kanaan and Castroneves hammed it up as well. Those guys gained some new fans tonight. Besides, the racing wasn't half bad, either.
Author:  ellis [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:07 am ]
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ptclaus98 wrote:
Dario should quit bitching. There's a whole half a season to go. If this had been done at Vegas, with points actually on the line, then he'd have had a point. But at this point it's academic because he still controls his own destiny. Besides, he won the first damn race. Not like it completely fucked him over.


Be fair, he won the race they qualified for. :p the random draw didn't effect that race.

I agree he probably wouldn't be complaining had he been given pole, but it doesn't make his point any less legit. I've always hated random grids and what not personally, but I could almost forgive it if they resulted it in brilliant racing.
Author:  ptclaus98 [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:18 am ]
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I heard this on TF. The second race is 1/36 of the total possible points scored. If Dario loses the championship, even by a hair, why is Texas the culprit? Why not Indy, where he didn't qualify great(can't remember if he ran out of fuel, too.) And then ran out of fuel in the race. Much more possible points thrown away not because of IndyCar or for the sake of entertainment, but by a team mistake? I think he's just feeling the pressure, because Power has now become competant on the ovals as well, so it's not automatic that he'll gain a haul of points on him there.
Author:  ellis [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:22 am ]
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He qualified 9th at Indy, but was on a better lap when he ran out of fuel. And a driver is never going to blame the team live on the TV, especially in America where it's all about PR and sponsors.

As I said, he is just bitching because he's lost out, but he makes a perfectly valid point. And had it been Power that had lost out, he'd be bitching too. So would any championship contender that got thrown to the back of the grid for the sake of entertainment. And franky, if F1 did this and Vettel got given pole, and Webber or Lewis or Jenson been put at the back, we'd all be crying too.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:36 am ]
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Was it the first caution free race in IRL history? It must have been the fastest motor race in history
Author:  Gabriel [ Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:59 am ]
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I think a random draw is valid on an oval track, but on a racing series were drivers can actually complete a goddamn pass. You see guys in NASCAR, they go to the back for whatever reason, and if they have a great car, they will be near the front in half a stint. And then, you could see Dario with a much better car, being stuck at 27th or 28th place for a ton of laps, only to gain when the pitstops occured.
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