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mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:30 am

Pretzel wrote:

That IS the worst wreck NASCAR has ever had. Including all fatal wrecks. Glad Austins Ok, that was just violent abrupt stop!

I wouldn't say its the worst ever, but for sure one of the top 5.

cArmAkAze · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:31 am

I instantly thought of 5 crashes worse than this. They all involved actual human beings losing their lives.

Tommy Vercetti · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:33 am

I'd rather not think about them...

cArmAkAze · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:33 am

The argument could be made it was a top 5 Nascar crash where all the drivers walked away, that is debatable, but including the loss of human life? Are you fucking kidding me?

de31168 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:34 am

Tommy Vercetti wrote:

cArmAkAze wrote:

Pretzel wrote:

That IS the worst wreck NASCAR has ever had. Including all fatal wrecks. Glad Austins Ok, that was just violent abrupt stop!

There is no way an actual person would make this post and actually believe it. It was just an ironic post, right?

It is bad, but yeah, the Geoff Bodine wreck in 2000 is even worse. I could argue that the Kyle Larson one's worse than this.

It slots in under those and just above Joey Coulter doing the RCR cartwheel in the fence at the end of the truck race a few years ago.

Sunoco · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:35 am

I just figure the metric people are using for "worst" is "most spectacular looking".

Which is pretty gross too but yeah.

at least that's the metric i assume people are using because i'm totally baffled otherwise

Tommy Vercetti · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:38 am

We could talk about this all night, but I need to sleep.

osella 1986 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:38 am

Definitely not the worst crash, but it is one of the worst in recent history.

cArmAkAze · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:49 am

Spoiler:

And I'm just getting warmed up.

sennadesillva · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:52 am

well at the very least we saw what a Bodine like crash at daytona would end up like in todays cars. im willing to bet dillon is much happier to be in his shoes right now.

racer612008 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:55 am

cArmAkAze · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:07 am

Fan video's already hitting YouTube:

Chris A · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:26 am

I fell asleep with like 29 to go and just woke up to watch the end.

Holy fuck. I don't even know what to say.

racer612008 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:31 am

Josh Wise lost 8 laps because his battery came unplugged and couldn't drive the car back to the pits

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:05 am

Massive thumbs up to the NBC Broadcast, the commentating team just worked for some reason :thumbsup:

Philthy82 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:06 am

This begs the question, what have restrictor plates achieved? They were introduced to stop cars going into the catchfence or the stands, but I'm pretty sure there has been a much higher propensity for cars to hit the fence since their introduction than there was before. Probably because the cars are so packed together they knock each other into the air in wrecks like this.

Sunoco · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:10 am

Philthy82 wrote:

This begs the question, what have restrictor plates achieved? They were introduced to stop cars going into the catchfence or the stands, but I'm pretty sure there has been a much higher propensity for cars to hit the fence since their introduction than there was before. Probably because the cars are so packed together they knock each other into the air in wrecks like this.

I really don't think it'd be wise to have big heavy stockcars going the speeds that no plates would involve. The extra speed would make it more likely for a car to clear the fence in an accident and also make regular accidents more serious.

Also I'm not sure just how much the cars would actually be spread out. I think it'd depend on the aero package. If they could go flat out then they'd still be in a huge pack I think; just going absurdly fast.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:24 am

All restrictor plates have done is allow bad drivers to look good

Philthy82 · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:25 am

Sunoco wrote:

Philthy82 wrote:

This begs the question, what have restrictor plates achieved? They were introduced to stop cars going into the catchfence or the stands, but I'm pretty sure there has been a much higher propensity for cars to hit the fence since their introduction than there was before. Probably because the cars are so packed together they knock each other into the air in wrecks like this.

I really don't think it'd be wise to have big heavy stockcars going the speeds that no plates would involve. The extra speed would make it more likely for a car to clear the fence in an accident and also make regular accidents more serious.

Also I'm not sure just how much the cars would actually be spread out. I think it'd depend on the aero package. If they could go flat out then they'd still be in a huge pack I think; just going absurdly fast.

I'm not suggesting do nothing, I'm saying it might be time to try something different since the big pack racing restrictor plates bring seems to greatly increase the likelihood of cars in the fence. Reducing horsepower through other means might allow for the same speeds without the clusterfuck component.

And if you want to know what cars without plates would be like, a pretty obvious indication is what they were like before the plates (spread out after a few laps) or what they are like at Michigan (spread out after a few laps). There is absolutely nothing to suggest they would stay in a big pack without the plates on.

This is of course ignoring reality, which is that NASCAR needs the clusterfuck component to sell.

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:26 am

Did not watch the race other than youtube highlights and eh...

restrictor plate races :roll:

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