IndyCar '12 | China Cancelled, no replacement

Cheeveer · PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:00 pm

What do you guys think of double-headers next year? I think I would like it. V8 Supercars is a role model there.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ ... ten-apples

codename_47 · PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:28 pm

I think the racing format is in need of a bit of a shake up but it entirely depends on what NBC and the other TV guys think...

If they were just going to show the Saturday race as 5 min highlights in the build up to Sunday, then we'll be losing a bit of track time with not much benefit.

But that's just me as a selfish viewer talking, if its better for the promoters then it should happen...

RtN · PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:45 pm

It would obviously have to be live on NBC Sports or ABC, that's what the article says. It's about trying to get more airtime for the series whilst remaining in that Godawful contract the series signed with Versus.

Tommy Vercetti · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:06 am

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The season is a failure from the organization standpoint. Berrnard has been at command for several years and could only deliver 15 races this season. Maybe he'll propose 12 races for 2013. Unacceptable

Find the botch in that comment.

Regardless, if there's anything negative about the series, almost none of them are Bernard's fault. At least he's trying to bring AOWR back to the realm of relevancy.

Starlancer · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:37 am

Indycar is just getting back onto it's feet, and yet some people still expect a 30 race worldwide season with ratings that rival F1.

Give it some damn time.

Ian-S · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:12 am

Robin Miller wrote:

Two of the people in this scheme were anti-CART so draw your own conclusions.

Anti-CART as in not part of that disaster?

So that would be AJ Foyt and who? Penske?

Shane · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:51 am

Penske wasn't anti-CART. Foyt was. Maybe DRR? Panther?

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:17 am

dicksplaash wrote:

What do you guys think of double-headers next year? I think I would like it. V8 Supercars is a role model there.

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ ... ten-apples

It's not that Randy has done some major mistakes during his time, but he hasn't been hard enough for Lotus and Dallara. And he let the Chinese event to slip away without any replacements. Pushing the Aero-packages back by another year was probably the biggest mistake, now Dallara can put any price on their goods. Give at least a chance to the teams to fix the smallest damages by themselves.

I use term "he" although I'm quite sure these were really not his fault or that there was no other reasonable alternatives than the ones chosen now. But I think he should have been in front of the media and say his thoughts about Lotus dropping the ball, Chinese event to fail and about Dallara skinning the teams with over-priced (?) spares. And now he should say something when the teams are against him. I think he should have used media as a weapon more often, that's what Bernie is good at and that's what the team owners are doing.

Beezle · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:49 am

I don't think the aero kits are pushed or postponed. I really think they are cancelled.

StefMeister · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:51 pm

Sounds good:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101919

Quote:

IndyCar believes its Fontana season finale will deliver the same quality of racing that saw its Texas round widely-praised, after three drivers tested aerodynamic packages at the California superspeedway on Thursday.

Ending the 'pack racing' that had become predominant on large ovals in recent seasons was a priority in the design of the new DW12 chassis introduced for 2012. These efforts were deemed successful after the first superspeedway race of the year at Texas in June.

On Thursday Josef Newgarden, Simon Pagenaud and Takuma Sato tested a potential aero spec for Fontana, using the same settings as at Indianapolis but with a rear wing wicker removed.

IndyCar's vice president of technology Will Phillips said that adjustments then had to be made after a challenging morning.

"None of drivers had been flat around the circuit in the morning," said Phillips. "It was a hot day and quite windy during the afternoon so it was challenging conditions.

"In the drivers' eyes, harder than Texas was in the race, so the conditions were very difficult. They thought it was a perhaps too hard and a bit more downforce was needed.

"During the course of the afternoon, I asked if they wanted to add the strakes to the package. Those that did felt that it put it in a similar state to Texas.

"As the track gripped up or cleaned up they would potentially be able to run flat for a few laps, and then tire degradation and traffic would take away that ability, which sounds very much like what occurred at Texas."

Schmidt-Hamilton driver Pagenaud ended the day encouraged about the chances of an entertaining and safe race at Fontana.

"I feel really good this year about the package for the ovals," he said. "The racing has been tremendous all year long. [The test] was a little bit difficult, I've got to say. If it was a little bit more downforce, I'm sure we could do some good, good racing."

Further multi-car tests will take place on 6 and 12 September before the 15 September race.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:54 pm

500 miles as well, I think the first non-Indy 500 miler in the Tony George Series. There were plenty in the original CART series.

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:59 pm

StefMeister wrote:

Sounds good:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101919

Quote:

IndyCar believes its Fontana season finale will deliver the same quality of racing that saw its Texas round widely-praised, after three drivers tested aerodynamic packages at the California superspeedway on Thursday.

Ending the 'pack racing' that had become predominant on large ovals in recent seasons was a priority in the design of the new DW12 chassis introduced for 2012. These efforts were deemed successful after the first superspeedway race of the year at Texas in June.

On Thursday Josef Newgarden, Simon Pagenaud and Takuma Sato tested a potential aero spec for Fontana, using the same settings as at Indianapolis but with a rear wing wicker removed.

IndyCar's vice president of technology Will Phillips said that adjustments then had to be made after a challenging morning.

"None of drivers had been flat around the circuit in the morning," said Phillips. "It was a hot day and quite windy during the afternoon so it was challenging conditions.

"In the drivers' eyes, harder than Texas was in the race, so the conditions were very difficult. They thought it was a perhaps too hard and a bit more downforce was needed.

"During the course of the afternoon, I asked if they wanted to add the strakes to the package. Those that did felt that it put it in a similar state to Texas.

"As the track gripped up or cleaned up they would potentially be able to run flat for a few laps, and then tire degradation and traffic would take away that ability, which sounds very much like what occurred at Texas."

Schmidt-Hamilton driver Pagenaud ended the day encouraged about the chances of an entertaining and safe race at Fontana.

"I feel really good this year about the package for the ovals," he said. "The racing has been tremendous all year long. [The test] was a little bit difficult, I've got to say. If it was a little bit more downforce, I'm sure we could do some good, good racing."

Further multi-car tests will take place on 6 and 12 September before the 15 September race.

Fontana not flat out? That might be one of the best non-Indy oval races of IndyCar Series for a long time coming up.

Dan Belcher · PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:17 pm

Dear God I am looking forward to Fontana.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:41 am

500 miles, Fontana, Not flat out, perfect recipe for one of the best races ever

Beezle · PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:57 pm

Dan Belcher wrote:

Dear God I am looking forward to Fontana.

Tommy Vercetti · PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:04 pm

I bought my tickets to that race. Sounds like it'll be a great one.

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:35 pm

Tommy Vercetti wrote:

I bought my tickets to that race. Sounds like it'll be a great one.

Remember to take lots of pictures/videos from the event and then share them with us. :wave:

Tommy Vercetti · PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 6:42 pm

NVirkkula wrote:

Tommy Vercetti wrote:

I bought my tickets to that race. Sounds like it'll be a great one.

Remember to take lots of pictures/videos from the event and then share them with us. :wave:

Oh, I intend to.

sennadesillva · PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:30 am

i was planning on going down there for the race since my buddy lives in fontana but i lost my license cuz of medical reasons so now i have no way to get down there

so pissed! take a ton of pics for me tommy!

phil1993 · PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:46 pm

Would this be like the best ever thing?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102023

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