2017 F1 Random Discussion Thread

Fabs · PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:21 pm

The Honda vibrates itself into failures

Honda :thumbsup:

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:01 pm

they'll have to put shock absorbers on the engine cover to reduce that

kals · PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:21 pm

Fabs wrote:

The Honda vibrates itself into failures

Honda :thumbsup:

So it's this then

codename_47 · PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:52 am

Back on the safety car point:

Just watching Australia 09.

Nakajima crashes when most of the field except button has made their first pit stops, Charlie blatantly waits until Jenson pits and comes out before he deploys the SC, despite the williams sitting in harms way around the blind corners of turn 4/5
(This results in a much longer SC period than normal too as the SC has to wait almost a full lap of waving through the field before Jenson is able to catch it up)

More on this as the live stream continues through 2009+

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:23 pm

has Charlie gone with Bernie or he still sits there "for safety"?

Gaara · PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:26 pm

We've still got Charlie.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:23 pm

so still one more lame season with lame calls

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:27 pm

worst non-SC call I can remember is Hockenheim 2014

Omega · PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:36 pm

Moan moan moan

Soul Reaver · PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:48 am

SC will turn more laps than both McLarens on the season.

Ian-S · PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:08 am

Soul Reaver wrote:

SC will turn more laps than both McLarens on the season.

Probably faster laps too...

micha · PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:48 pm

Gaara wrote:

As far as I'm aware, there's nothing to stop them from doing that. Especially could have done that before entering F1 and gain a huge advantage.

I wonder why they didn't do that.

Also wonder if it would have make any difference if there wasn't a restriction on testing.

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:11 pm

Engineering firms, no matter how shiny their name is, don't always make the best decisions to achieve the highest competitiveness and quality goals. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.

I've seen execs and managers thinking that real life testing is too expensive, that whichever design stage (or lab testing) they've reached is good enough, and that the rest can/will be sorted out easily as the product rolls out. You'd be surprised how often it's all about saving the quick buck today, and missing out on the big picture and huge future advantage that could be gained from the simple solutions you're suggesting.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:36 pm

http://en.f1i.com/news/261830-former-wi ... ad-67.html

former driver Patrick Nève passed away aged 67

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:07 pm

coldtyre wrote:

Engineering firms, no matter how shiny their name is, don't always make the best decisions to achieve the highest competitiveness and quality goals. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.

I've seen execs and managers thinking that real life testing is too expensive, that whichever design stage (or lab testing) they've reached is good enough, and that the rest can/will be sorted out easily as the product rolls out. You'd be surprised how often it's all about saving the quick buck today, and missing out on the big picture and huge future advantage that could be gained from the simple solutions you're suggesting.

Don't forget that half staff you need is enough when you pay them half of the average. It's just lack of ambition and motivation that keeps the team down. Then off you go with your lease BMW for what ever meeting you have about boosting the corporation image and your own shield in the process. The glass is always half empty because it's half filled with dimwits working for the company. Wish how there was less of them in there. Then I could afford a Porsche. :innocent:

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:37 am

New wet start rules are... pointless. The cars will still follow the SC until it's 'safe', then will grid up for a standing start.

On wets.

On a track that is probably dry.

With a 10 sec penalty for following the SC in for inters.

Oh, and cars starting from the pit lane can follow the train around, before returning to the pit lane for the start. Also, some BS about the first four laps counting as formation laps or something.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:13 am

just start 'em in the wet for goodness sake

aerogi · PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:35 am

LucasWheldon wrote:

http://en.f1i.com/news/261830-former-williams-driver-patrick-neve-dead-67.html

former driver Patrick Nève passed away aged 67

RIP Patrick

will be remembered for testing out this thing (Kauhsen):

micha · PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 9:44 am

Warning horrible site: https://www.f1reports.com/article/32232 ... ip-f1-host

Not sure how credible it is and not sure how I feel about it if there is any truth in it.

On one hand I'd applaud non-championship races to test ideas but on the other hand. Will it do any difference however? Will teams be willing to do those? Already a lot of races so why participate in a useless race?

JJ · PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:25 am

gkmotorsport wrote:

New wet start rules are... pointless. The cars will still follow the SC until it's 'safe', then will grid up for a standing start.

Yeah, they make long red flag periods even more probable. Previously it was possibly to start in relatively poor conditions behind the SC, but now they're eager to wait longer for better conditions to allow standing start. For example, I don't think they would have had a standing start in conditions like Brazil last year, instead, they would have waited the conditions to improve for hours.

Rule #1: More racing, less waiting.

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