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Exactly. It's just another excuse for people to bitch and moan about DRS, when in reality people have forgotten what actually happened last year. For instance, the battle between Hamilton and Webber which saw the RBR completely unable to pass the McLaren despite having the DRS aid.

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I have never liked nor will I ever like these Tilke's stadium parking areas with no elevation difference or a chance a spin would be harmful.
Ironically, the race will supposedly be a huge thriller in comparison to those at traditional circuits. I wish it would be other way.

The constantly ongoing debate about DRS makes me want to leave this forum forever!!!

Yes this is a discussion forum but no I don't want to read about the same subject over and over again. PLEASE, we now know who is pro and who is against, can we please drop it and talk about the weather or how old Schumacher is?

Autosport says there was only 29 yet clip the apex's overtaking stats has 46?

The odd thing about them making the zone longer is that while there was some easy DRS passes last year, There was also a decent amount of good racing going into the braking zone which were then continued down the following straight.

By making the DRS zone longer I think we may end up seeing more of the easier passing & less of the battling into the braking zone we saw last year.


They have also moved the detection point before turn 1 so any passing done there may see DRS do nothing but allow that driver to use it to pull away taking away any possibility for the overtaken car to try & fight back.

The weather will be fine. Emlyn Hughes was pointing out how unlikely it is for F1 to spend 2 weeks in the Far East and not have any track time disrupted by rain, but that's what's going to happen.

Schumacher is 43.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

I really like this track. Nice to see a track making DRS work. It was too hard at Suzuka!

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First of all, my post was formulated as a genuine question, precisely because my memory might have been playing tricks on me and I was asking confirmation.

Secondly, I remember the RB problem to overtake because they have the crappiest top speed. But many of the other passes made by faster teams (Mercedes, Mclarens...) were done in a very easy fashion with DRS giving too much an advantage to the car behind.

So if there were little overtakes that year, it's not because the DRS was ineffective, and Jason's autosport article proves nothing. It's not about the frequency of overtakes, it's about how easy it is when the overtake actually takes place.


Read the page again and take a chill pill.

Nowhere there was a discussion pro or against DRS. We are only discussing the actual length of the DRS zone in response to the article, it is a recurrent subject but it's a key element to the races nowadays. Just like weather, tyres and Schumacher's diaper brand.

S1 is crap, but the rest of the layout is one of the best pieces in whole calendar imo

Sooooooo faster cars overtaking slower cars then?

Not really a DRS issue is it?

If people don't get by via DRS they find a way to bitch about it anyway. KERS makes passing to easy, Pirelli makes passing too easy.
Or if they don't get by they bitch about their driver being "held up" and his strategy being compromised.

Bottom line, I'd much rather have this debate race after race than the same old "F1 is shit, cars only pass in pit lane and back off after the last stops" debate like we did in the refuelling era.

There's always something to moan about....

Also the track, I've been around it thousands of times on F1 2011 and watched the races from here so far.....still can't picture it in my mind's eye.
Doesn't strike me as anything special it seems, nothing worth remembering. Long straight and a final flat out chicane before the start finish straight....that's honestly all I can picture.
Not great...

Oh, that and smog. Lots of smog.

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IIRC, if anything, DRS only interfered in the battle in a bad way, wasn't it? Didn't Webber make a "legitimate" overtake on Lewis, to then just be re-overtook due to DRS?

But at least this will be fixed this year:



PS: I know DRS passes are legitimate as well.

I think they are getting better with the DRS zones now i dont mind it as much lately.

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Goddammit you pissed me off with the rest of your post, but this is spot on.

I've been wondering the same yesterday and started watching some onboards, it was like discovering the track again.

Oh here we go

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Back in the day it used to be Brazil and Imola as the 2 anticlockwise tracks on the calendar, where driver fitness was tested. Then Turkey came along and made it 3.

There seems to have been an obsession with anti clockwise circuits since then with Singapore, Abu Dhabi, Korea and the USA now being anticlockwise tracks.

what is this whole 'gangman' thing?! I must have missed something.

One of korean singer PSY's songs has gone mental recently, I actually really like it

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It's a pretty decent and catchy song. And it takes the piss out of people who pretend to be part of the high end 'gangnam' culture of the region, which is fun too.

Edit: And the video is fucking hilarious.