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Alonso said that they're not only fighting with RB, McLaren and Mercedes, but also with Force India and Sauber.

Does F1 have a "double jeopardy" (if that's the right term) policy, in that you can't be punished for the same offence twice?

So he will start in the middle of the pack or at the back... Oh dear! No!

Another ban needed - clearly!

People talk about Grosjean needing to learn from these mistakes, However he's had plenty of time to learn to stop pulling stupid moves & hasn't changed.

I remember watching him in Euro F3 doing the same stupid shit & he was exactly the same in GP2.

SKY Germany showing that it was the 8th Time this Year that Grosjean caused a Collision at the Start.Well thats more than 50%.....

Even I doing better when I play F1 2011

It's frustrating how no-one at Ferrari is accepting blame. Alonso just moved straight across the track and then kept squeezing Kimi. Whatever happened to "all the time you have to leave a space"?

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

That actually looks really harsh on Senna

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

I would say "yes". it's possible in football, so...

That penalty for Senna was harsh based on that.

Anyone captured Rosberg and Webber (and other driver) talking about Grosjean? I'm interested.

Alonso doesn't care. He drives into gaps that are closing and cries about it. Then he drives over other cars and cries about it.

As for Grosjean, make him start from the pit lane in Korea.

Herbert thinks Lotus should get rid of Grosjean.

This is getting to the point with Grosjean now with 'what can we do?' Because after his one race ban, he's done another ridiculous move. He's so fast but just, well, stupid.

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

Good god, what a shitstorm

Make him start in Suzuka while the other will race in Korea.

Well 50% start accident ratio is monumentally bad. That's half the races he's thrown away points. That's on par with Maldonado.

It's worse. Maldonado usually makes silly minor contact, or crashes by himself. Grosjean's just been downright erratic and dangerous.

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Dan Wheldon | 1978 - 2011

He will still bin it in the gravel in turn 1, lap 1.

Grosjean has to go. Simple as.