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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:24 pm 
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Most people on Reddit are barely old enough to remember a time pre-hybrid.

Hopefully the FIA doesn't look at Reddits reaction and see it as an indication of the majority, but knowing how social media obsessed Liberty are, that's exactly what they will do.


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Reddit is 99% idiots. They know nothing.


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They're staggeringly dumb. But it's like a train wreck, I can't look away. :8:


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StefMeister wrote:
For 2021 F1 will feature 21" rims & tyre warmers will be banned. Front tyre width will be reduced from 305mm to 270mm, Rear width will remain at 405mm.

Tyre supply contract is open & anyone interested in the 2020-2023 supply deal must submit an entry by August 31st 2018 which will be looked at by the FIA before been sent to Liberty who will have make there selection before sending it back to the FIA for final approval.

https://www.racefans.net/2018/07/20/for ... eels-2021/


so maybe a new tyre supplier from 2020, but the new rules will only apply from 2021 onwards? Looks like they want to keep Pirelli then. I can't see a new tyre supplier go all the way to engineer tyres for only one year and have to change them for the year after.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:16 pm 
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I thought I spazzed out at the end there when I read that. New tires from 2021 onwards...but the contract starts in 2020??? Why on Earth would they do that for?


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Maybe to give the new supplier a year of testing?


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That would make sense


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lack of tire warmers ruin races? wtf that shit is one of the reasons drivers doesn't face too much challenge

you just stick the warm tires and is free to gas. no tire warmers mean you'll have to struggle for at least 2 laps

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And then some noobish driver can't heat up his tires, goes full throttle coming out of the pits, crashes, teams complain, FIA sees it as a safety hazard and allows back tire blankets before the second half of the season.


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By that you mean Lance, right?


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Ian-S wrote:
By that you mean Lance, right?


Tyre warmers haven’t stopped other drivers spinning on the warm up lap right?

Alonso did it at Spain in 2003
Montoya did it in Australia in 2005 or 2006
Someone did it at Nürburgring in the late 2000s (I’ve a feeling that was Alonso again)

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his dad will buy him heated tires

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I can see the loophole already.

No tire blankets, but let's put the next set of tyres in this huge ass oven we have now, and take them out, just before the pitstop.


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that until FIA put Pirelli henchmen to measure temperature on grid

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No tyre warmers bring out the best in drivers.

F1 shoulda got rid of them years ago.

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Speedworx wrote:
No tyre warmers bring out the best in drivers.

F1 shoulda got rid of them years ago.


To be fair to them, they've proposed it at least a couple of times before and had it shouted down on safety grounds, so it's always been their plan.

I think they put it in dtm as a trial to show people that it can improve the racing and not be dangerous at all, and it's done just that

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Omega wrote:
Maybe to give the new supplier a year of testing?


That doesn't make any sense at all. If they choose a new supplier, they will have to develop a current spec tyre for just one year, then another completely new one the year after that. A new supplier will have to develop two concurrent tyres. Talk about keeping costs down.

That proposal just reads as a slam dunk way to give the contract to Pirelli whilst basically putting out an obligatory/sham tender process.


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Is much of an issue, the rule change after a year (for a new manufacturer)?

I mean, how important it is to develop a tyre with certain dimensions, rather than developing tyre compounds, at whatever size?


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Paddy Lowe has said that there also discussing a return to single lap qualifying :lol:


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first they must ban tire warmers and then team radio to spare us from constant whining

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