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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:48 am 
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How the mighty have fallen. First Williams and now possibly McLaren. Are there any uber rich Italians with pretty average sons driving?

In regards to the tires why not completely shake it up and say teams can have whatever mixture of compounds they want on the cars just like the good old days. So Ferrari are chewing up the rears? Let them chuck on a harder compound rear. It is one of the things that I really really like about MotoGP. So Zarco has gone soft front and rear, Marquez Medium front and Hard soft, who will go the distance?

All Pirelli need to do is just bring 1 extra set of whatever compound the teams nominate, and if they want to run a mixed compound set in the race, notify on the Friday evening or Saturday before qualifying.


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With Stroll's CV you can argue he deserved F1 chance (became too early though) but there's not really much showing that Latifi deserves one.


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webbsy wrote:
How the mighty have fallen. First Williams and now possibly McLaren. Are there any uber rich Italians with pretty average sons driving?

In regards to the tires why not completely shake it up and say teams can have whatever mixture of compounds they want on the cars just like the good old days. So Ferrari are chewing up the rears? Let them chuck on a harder compound rear. It is one of the things that I really really like about MotoGP. So Zarco has gone soft front and rear, Marquez Medium front and Hard soft, who will go the distance?

All Pirelli need to do is just bring 1 extra set of whatever compound the teams nominate, and if they want to run a mixed compound set in the race, notify on the Friday evening or Saturday before qualifying.

So you would have all 7 (or how many the fuck there are now) compounds available at every weekend?


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Pirelli should turn full austerity mode and let just one set per session, with softs for qualifying only and hard tires that can go full race distance

no more undercuts and different strategies, just racing to the flag

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 4:16 pm 
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webbsy wrote:
So Zarco has gone soft front and rear, Marquez Medium front and Hard soft, who will go the distance?


A "hard soft" tyre...that'd mean it's a medium compound?


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Unfortunately hard tyres give less grip, which means the cars are relying completely on the aerodynamics for cornering speed. It wouldn't create very good racing. It would be a nice idea if the cars had no downforce. Go the race distance on a set of hard tyres vs going faster on softer tyres, but having to pit and then gain back places on the track.

I remember Benetton trying the hard tyre strategy a lot in 1990. Nannini nearly held off Senna a couple of times.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 5:02 pm 
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Gabriel wrote:
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So Zarco has gone soft front and rear, Marquez Medium front and Hard soft, who will go the distance?


A "hard soft" tyre...that'd mean it's a medium compound?


No it means the sideways and outer third of the tyre has the medium compound, and the middle part soft, or vice versa depending on construction options.

MotoGP is light years ahead of anything else tyre construction-wise, you barely if ever see a tyre failure in MotoGP or Superbikes, the only other sport to try multi-compound tyres is NASCAR who sometimes have a similar tyre at some tracks.


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Ian-S wrote:
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webbsy wrote:
So Zarco has gone soft front and rear, Marquez Medium front and Hard soft, who will go the distance?


A "hard soft" tyre...that'd mean it's a medium compound?


No it means the sideways and outer third of the tyre has the medium compound, and the middle part soft, or vice versa depending on construction options.

MotoGP is light years ahead of anything else tyre construction-wise, you barely if ever see a tyre failure in MotoGP or Superbikes, the only other sport to try multi-compound tyres is NASCAR who sometimes have a similar tyre at some tracks.


I had absolutely no idea and was just trying to be funny. :cry:


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:36 pm 
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Haha sorry I thought you genuinely didn't know.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:51 pm 
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I didn't know, so thanks for the explanation. Pretty cool.


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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:48 pm 
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Indeed, good insight.


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LucasWheldon wrote:
Pirelli should turn full austerity mode and let just one set per session, with softs for qualifying only and hard tires that can go full race distance

no more undercuts and different strategies, just racing to the flag


With three engines per season? Good luck with that! :roll:

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Sorry about the confusion guys I must have spazed out while typing, meant Medium front and Hard rear tyre. But I believe they do have the Hard Soft tyre as Ian explained.


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Considering the only racing we've seen this season was a result of different tyre strategies, I have no clue why anyone would argue getting rid of different compounds or tyre changes is a good idea with the current car.

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But there's no need for 7 different names.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:08 pm 
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about the tyres,

will we still have 6-7 compounds, but for each race they will be only named soft, medium or hard? Or will there be only 3 compounds anyway?


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The former - 6-7 compounds


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Philthy82 wrote:
Considering the only racing we've seen this season was a result of different tyre strategies, I have no clue why anyone would argue getting rid of different compounds or tyre changes is a good idea with the current car.


is a matter of tradition, racing was ok before some guys came up with tire changes and messed with the thing

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2018 10:07 am 
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I saw this and it made me cry: https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... e_twisted/

because he has some valid points.....


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 9:40 am 
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Gabriel wrote:
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So Zarco has gone soft front and rear, Marquez Medium front and Hard soft, who will go the distance?


A "hard soft" tyre...that'd mean it's a medium compound?

That's how I define "hard soft" to my romantic interests


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