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2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
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Author:  fede999 [ Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
deggis wrote:
However there is another limitation (also not written) and that is that GT3 entries in ELMS and 24LM are limited to GT3 OEMs in WEC. Which will potentially create a bizarre situation with auto-entries, if e.g. Mercedes was to gain an auto-entry via Asian Le Mans Series. :o


The auto-entry is given to the team, regardless of the associated manufacturer.

IMSA GTD teams had to find an ACO-compliant car to race at Le Mans, so any team which wins IMSA or AsLMS with a Mercedes or Audi GT3 will probably have to find another car for Le Mans.

To me, it totally sounds like the ACO saying "just sod off to World GT and NLS already, we don't want you in our series if you have no intention of developing an hypercar" to Audi and Mercedes.
Author:  ZeroX [ Tue Nov 28, 2023 10:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
After the manipulation of 1998, anything that keeps Mercedes away from world sportscar racing is great.
Author:  deggis [ Wed Nov 29, 2023 3:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
fede999 wrote:
The auto-entry is given to the team, regardless of the associated manufacturer.

I know, crappy wording. At this point there would be a decent chance that the team decides to forgo the entry.
Author:  fede999 [ Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
deggis wrote:
fede999 wrote:
The auto-entry is given to the team, regardless of the associated manufacturer.

I know, crappy wording. At this point there would be a decent chance that the team decides to forgo the entry.


Well, your point still stands though.
It's quite bizarre to be racing in a championship named Asian LE MANS Series and not being allowed to go to race at Le Mans with your championship winning car.

At least IMSA has a different denomination.

GT3 just isn't an ACO thing, but something they were somewhat forced to accept if they wanted to keep the rich privateers on the grid (hence a pro-am oriented class with a mandatory bronze driver).
And it shows.
Author:  Schumifan [ Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
What's the reasoning for that rule? Not wanting to deal with the BOP is the only one I can think of?
Author:  RtN [ Fri Dec 01, 2023 12:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
Yes, they don't want to try and work out the BOP for a car that hasn't been racing against other BOPd cars in the same series.
Author:  Schumifan [ Fri Dec 01, 2023 1:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
If only there was an established and successful GT3 BOP.
Author:  deggis [ Fri Dec 01, 2023 3:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
Schumifan wrote:
If only there was an established and successful GT3 BOP.

Even without ACO's obvious not-invented-here syndrome LM probably still needs special BoP.
Author:  amq55 [ Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
Jota have announced Hanson, Nato and Ilott.
Author:  codename_47 [ Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
amq55 wrote:
Jota have announced Hanson, Nato and Ilott.


I hope the Balance of Performance is in their favour this year

Mmmm.....BOP
Author:  fede999 [ Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
codename_47 wrote:
amq55 wrote:
Jota have announced Hanson, Nato and Ilott.


I hope the Balance of Performance is in their favour this year

Mmmm.....BOP


My god, I got the joke... 8O :mrgreen:
Author:  codename_47 [ Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
fede999 wrote:
codename_47 wrote:
amq55 wrote:
Jota have announced Hanson, Nato and Ilott.


I hope the Balance of Performance is in their favour this year

Mmmm.....BOP


My god, I got the joke... 8O :mrgreen:


This is why I'm glad there's no-one under 30 on here, only 30+ would get it :lol:
Author:  Swede [ Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
codename_47 wrote:
fede999 wrote:
codename_47 wrote:

I hope the Balance of Performance is in their favour this year

Mmmm.....BOP


My god, I got the joke... 8O :mrgreen:


This is why I'm glad there's no-one under 30 on here, only 30+ would get it :lol:


Du bop ba duba dop ba du
Yeah, yeah
Author:  MotoKris1 [ Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
Maybe that's why I don't get it lol :lol:
Author:  deggis [ Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
New TGR colors and livery

Image
Author:  Schumifan [ Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
Nice, that's a big improvement
Author:  Ospif1 [ Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
Nice to have something a little different from them.
Author:  amq55 [ Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
Tyre warmers banned at Le Mans next year, expect lolz into the chicane.
Author:  amq55 [ Thu Dec 14, 2023 2:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
Iron Lynx (aka the Lambo team) have announced Bortolotti, Kvyat and Mortara for WEC and Grosjean, Caldarelli and Cairoli for IMSA.
Author:  Ospif1 [ Fri Dec 15, 2023 7:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS
amq55 wrote:
Tyre warmers banned at Le Mans next year, expect lolz into the chicane.


Instead a sea of tyres lying in the sun out back. Silly rule to ban tyre warming imo.
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