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Author: | gkmotorsport [ Fri May 26, 2023 8:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
Juihi wrote: Sounds like he wasn't fast enough, which isn't surprising given he barely done any racing for years and then is trying to jump into the top class of sportscars This sounds like most of JFV's post-F1 career, unfortunately. |
Author: | mclaren2008 [ Fri May 26, 2023 10:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
gkmotorsport wrote: Juihi wrote: Sounds like he wasn't fast enough, which isn't surprising given he barely done any racing for years and then is trying to jump into the top class of sportscars This sounds like most of JFV's post-F1 career, unfortunately. *post Newey career |
Author: | Omega [ Fri May 26, 2023 12:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
Jacques Villeneuve. 1994 Indycar rookie of the year. 1995 Indycar champion and Indy 500 winner. 1996 F1 rookie of the year, Vice World Champion. 1997 F1 World Champion. 1998 to 2023 unsuccessfull |
Author: | pimmy [ Fri May 26, 2023 12:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
Juihi wrote: Sounds like he wasn't fast enough, which isn't surprising given he barely done any racing for years and then is trying to jump into the top class of sportscars Didn't really help that the car always broke when he was in it. |
Author: | gkmotorsport [ Fri May 26, 2023 2:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
Omega wrote: Jacques Villeneuve. 1994 Indycar rookie of the year. 1995 Indycar champion and Indy 500 winner. 1996 F1 rookie of the year, Vice World Champion. 1997 F1 World Champion. 1998 to 2023 unsuccessfull I remain totally convinced that his talent was contained in his hair. |
Author: | codename_47 [ Sat May 27, 2023 1:51 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
He'll be there, just in shadow form only and referred to only as "The Canadian" and "Vanwall number 1" until they pay him enough for next year |
Author: | amq55 [ Wed May 31, 2023 9:38 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
Wholesale BOP changes for Le Mans: Toyota - +37kg Porsche - +3kg Ferrari - +24kg Cadillac - +11kg |
Author: | deggis [ Thu Jun 01, 2023 4:08 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
amq55 wrote: Wholesale BOP changes for Le Mans: Toyota - +37kg Porsche - +3kg Ferrari - +24kg Cadillac - +11kg This is bullshit because there was a plan and an agreement to create stability and only change it after Le Mans (LMH vs LMDh changes were possible after every two rounds but no changes were made after Portimao). Back to sandbagging and surprise changes even between the last practice/qualifying and race morning then. |
Author: | mclaren2008 [ Thu Jun 01, 2023 11:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
amq55 wrote: Wholesale BOP changes for Le Mans: Toyota - +37kg Porsche - +3kg Ferrari - +24kg Cadillac - +11kg sandbag = engage |
Author: | peterohanrahanrahan [ Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:31 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
Omega wrote: Jacques Villeneuve. 1994 Indycar rookie of the year. 1995 Indycar champion and Indy 500 winner. 1996 F1 rookie of the year, Vice World Champion. 1997 F1 World Champion. 1998 to 2023 unsuccessfull Controversial opinion - Williams were so dominant in the 90's that some very mediocre drivers were given world championships. |
Author: | Juihi [ Fri Jun 02, 2023 3:01 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
peterohanrahanrahan wrote: Omega wrote: Jacques Villeneuve. 1994 Indycar rookie of the year. 1995 Indycar champion and Indy 500 winner. 1996 F1 rookie of the year, Vice World Champion. 1997 F1 World Champion. 1998 to 2023 unsuccessfull Controversial opinion - Williams were so dominant in the 90's that some very mediocre drivers were given world championships. Kinda hard to argue against that |
Author: | FiatFan83 [ Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
codename_47 wrote: He'll be there, just in shadow form only and referred to only as "The Canadian" and "Vanwall number 1" until they pay him enough for next year I get this reference! LolSent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk |
Author: | FiatFan83 [ Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:55 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
peterohanrahanrahan wrote: Omega wrote: Jacques Villeneuve. 1994 Indycar rookie of the year. 1995 Indycar champion and Indy 500 winner. 1996 F1 rookie of the year, Vice World Champion. 1997 F1 World Champion. 1998 to 2023 unsuccessfull Controversial opinion - Williams were so dominant in the 90's that some very mediocre drivers were given world championships. Sent from my SM-G781U1 using Tapatalk |
Author: | fede999 [ Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:17 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
deggis wrote: amq55 wrote: Wholesale BOP changes for Le Mans: Toyota - +37kg Porsche - +3kg Ferrari - +24kg Cadillac - +11kg This is bullshit because there was a plan and an agreement to create stability and only change it after Le Mans (LMH vs LMDh changes were possible after every two rounds but no changes were made after Portimao). This is what I read too just before Sebring: BoP was to remain the same up to and including Le Mans. I don't know if it was just a "gentleman agreement" or an actual rule, but this really smells like politics. Of the kind Roger Penske is usually involved in... |
Author: | deggis [ Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
fede999 wrote: deggis wrote: amq55 wrote: Wholesale BOP changes for Le Mans: Toyota - +37kg Porsche - +3kg Ferrari - +24kg Cadillac - +11kg This is bullshit because there was a plan and an agreement to create stability and only change it after Le Mans (LMH vs LMDh changes were possible after every two rounds but no changes were made after Portimao). This is what I read too just before Sebring: BoP was to remain the same up to and including Le Mans. I don't know if it was just a "gentleman agreement" or an actual rule, but this really smells like politics. Of the kind Roger Penske is usually involved in... It has been assumed it was an unanimous agreement between ACO and all teams/OEMs, but not written in the rulebook. Today this story then again suggests these changes were not unanimously agreed. It is understood the changes were presented by the FIA and the ACO as a fait accompli and there was no attempt to gain the unanimous agreement that in theory was necessary to make revisions outside the prescriptions of a new Hypercar system introduced for 2023. https://www.motorsport.com/lemans/news/ ... /10476640/ |
Author: | westracing01 [ Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
I admit I find it slightly odd that the ACO/FIA, regardless of agreements, hit their cars so heavily. The WEC Caddy at Sebring was faster than it's IMSA counterpart if memory serves (could be wrong.) Peugeot not on that list despite having moments of pace... Interesting. Vanwall and Glickenhose are meaningless. |
Author: | fede999 [ Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
deggis wrote: It is understood the changes were presented by the FIA and the ACO as a fait accompli and there was no attempt to gain the unanimous agreement that in theory was necessary to make revisions outside the prescriptions of a new Hypercar system introduced for 2023. https://www.motorsport.com/lemans/news/ ... /10476640/ Well, I don't think this behaviour will gain the ACO/FIA any favour among the manufacturers hindered by these revisions. What's the point of reaching agreements if then the rules are arbitrarily imposed? Let's hope it's for the better (better racing), but I'm not holding my breath. |
Author: | Schumifan [ Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
[tweet]https://twitter.com/onlyendurance/status/1665320192610562048[/tweet] |
Author: | Omega [ Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
peterohanrahanrahan wrote: Omega wrote: Jacques Villeneuve. 1994 Indycar rookie of the year. 1995 Indycar champion and Indy 500 winner. 1996 F1 rookie of the year, Vice World Champion. 1997 F1 World Champion. 1998 to 2023 unsuccessfull Controversial opinion - cars designed by Adrian Newey were so dominant in the 90's that some very mediocre drivers were given world championships. Fixed this for you |
Author: | peterohanrahanrahan [ Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2023 Sportscar Discussion - WEC/ELMS/AsLMS |
Omega wrote: peterohanrahanrahan wrote: Omega wrote: Jacques Villeneuve. 1994 Indycar rookie of the year. 1995 Indycar champion and Indy 500 winner. 1996 F1 rookie of the year, Vice World Champion. 1997 F1 World Champion. 1998 to 2023 unsuccessfull Controversial opinion - cars designed by Adrian Newey were so dominant in the 90's that some very mediocre drivers were given world championships. Fixed this for you Ooooh are we implying that Mika Hakkinen was mediocre? That's a hot take. |
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