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2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Adelaide season final
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Author:  the ost [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
About 5 seperate incidents bring out a SC in the sports sedans
Author:  Gaara [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
And starts again as the SC goes in...
Author:  Gaara [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
That could have been bigger for Brown...
Author:  simonracer [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 5:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Slade/Courtney/Jones crash lap 1. SC

Slade also had an incident on lap 1 yesterday, poor guy.
Author:  simonracer [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Reynolds takes the lead from Kostecki at the final pit stops.
Author:  simonracer [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Brodie takes back the lead after a pretty intense couple of laps.

He's now in a position where he could wrap up the title at the first race at Adelaide if he finishes ahead of SVG (if SVG doesn't pass someone else today)
Author:  simonracer [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Two laps later and Dave gets back by him!

Brodie slightly overdrove the entry to a corner and that allowed him past.
Author:  simonracer [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Holy shit that could have been bad. Golding spun coming out of the first chicane and when he tried to spin himself around Pye had to hit the wall to avoid him. SC out with 7 to go.
Author:  simonracer [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Reynolds holds on for the win! First victory for Grove Racing.

Might be a protest or something from Erebus as Dave shortcut the turn 1 chicane a few times though.
Author:  pimmy [ Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Best race of the season so far, despite the chicane cutting.
Author:  peterohanrahanrahan [ Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Few things

- It's been revealed the series is bleeding money, it lost $2.7m last calendar year (2022).
- It could cost up to $10m to get the cars up to parity, which could bankrupt the sport
- The Bend might disappear from the calendar next year, because of sanctioning fees
- Only 5 races have been locked in for 2024.
- Newcastle will be back if a long-term deal can be agreed to (they were only offered a 1-year deal for 2024)
Author:  Gaara [ Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
It's really in a big mess isn't it?
Author:  peterohanrahanrahan [ Fri Nov 03, 2023 4:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Gaara wrote:
It's really in a big mess isn't it?


Its barely being kept alive by private investors.

Ford threatened to quit over this parity mess as well, and the Camaro might be gone by end of 2025. So yeah, it's circling the drain at the moment.
Author:  Juihi [ Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
They don't even sell the Camaro in Australia either do they?
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Fri Nov 03, 2023 8:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
10 million for parity, jeez Louise :8:
Author:  pimmy [ Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
peterohanrahanrahan wrote:
- It could cost up to $10m to get the cars up to parity, which could bankrupt the sport

How and why is this so much of an issue? GT3, GT4 & TCR all have multiple makes & models (and in the case of GTs different drivetrain & engine configurations) and the organisers of those categories manage to balance the cars without much of a problem. Supercars can't even BOP 2 cars. :roll:
Author:  simonracer [ Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
The biggest problem is that there isn't a proper wind tunnel in Aus so they just send the cars down an airfield to do their aero parity, which clearly isn't accurate enough. They are now sending the cars to the US to run them down the wind tunnel that NASCAR uses which is apparently going to cost 2-3 million AUD, but they would have saved money and effort and had they just done that to begin with.
Author:  mclaren2008 [ Fri Nov 03, 2023 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
pimmy wrote:
peterohanrahanrahan wrote:
- It could cost up to $10m to get the cars up to parity, which could bankrupt the sport

How and why is this so much of an issue? GT3, GT4 & TCR all have multiple makes & models (and in the case of GTs different drivetrain & engine configurations) and the organisers of those categories manage to balance the cars without much of a problem. Supercars can't even BOP 2 cars. :roll:


There is a lot of politics in Supercars
Author:  peterohanrahanrahan [ Sat Nov 04, 2023 12:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
simonracer wrote:
The biggest problem is that there isn't a proper wind tunnel in Aus


There are heaps wind tunnels in Australia. I've done wind tunnel testing on a 1/5th scale truck before for work. For some reason they want to do it with full sized vehicles, as built, instead of scaled models, which would save millions. My alumni has a wind tunnel capable of testing 1/2 scale cars (think a car split in half down the middle).

Also, they're doing this parity with the Camaro, which will be gone in 2 years.

simonracer wrote:
so they just send the cars down an airfield to do their aero parity


Teams have deliberately sand-bagged these tests too.

Juihi wrote:
They don't even sell the Camaro in Australia either do they?


Not since 2020, there are no plans to bring it either as LHD conversions are too expensive.
Author:  codename_47 [ Sat Nov 04, 2023 1:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2023 Oz Supercars & Supports | Gold Coast 500
Looks like TCR is going to have a lot of dates on its hands soon

Will the supercars become a Bathurst only championship, the way it's going? Or will they just officially merge with TCR to save face?
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