TBK-Light.com :: BTCC @ Oulton Park 5th/6th June *Spoilers*

The first safety car was required when Martin Depper’s Forster Motorsport BMW speared straight on into the barriers at Cascades on the opening lap. The race would prove to be an expensive exercise for the Forster team as Arthur Forster also ended up in the barriers later on, although he was miraculously able to continue after driving round to the pit lane for patch-up repairs to his car!

I just don't understand how these decisions are come to. It's almost like the most corrupt group of people in motorsport sit round a table and decide who the rules apply to.

I thought TOC was quite relaxed about it. Neal seems to be driving relatively cleanly this year.

phil1993 wrote:

I thought TOC was quite relaxed about it. Neal seems to be driving relatively cleanly this year.

It was more when they asked TOC about the move and he said "I wouldn't call it a move, it was just a crash".

Just seems that sometimes the rules are rubbing is racing, and other times rubbing is a DQ. I don't understand the process at all.

Found some pics of the Jordan / Neate incident, quite hilarious the last pic.

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums ... p?t=234551

Thanks for the link. I was sat on the main straight so had no idea what had happened until I got home and looked at the tv recording. Can't believe the cameras missed the actual incident.

Author:	Gaara [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:09 pm ]
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He's shown as a lap down in race three, are you sure he finished that one?

Author:	Speedworx [ Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:47 pm ]
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Found it: Quote: The first safety car was required when Martin Depper’s Forster Motorsport BMW speared straight on into the barriers at Cascades on the opening lap. The race would prove to be an expensive exercise for the Forster team as Arthur Forster also ended up in the barriers later on, although he was miraculously able to continue after driving round to the pit lane for patch-up repairs to his car! http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1980

Author:	phil1993 [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:17 pm ]
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Neate stripped of 9th, 6 place penalty for Croft http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84210

Author:	ellis [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:15 pm ]
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So why is he penalised, but others haven't been?

Author:	Gaara [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:31 pm ]
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Because he isn't a 'big name' in BTCC. Then again we didn't see the incident so we don't know how blatant he was in taking Jordan out.

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Author:	phil1993 [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:31 pm ]
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Jordan seemed quite angry at what happened, and it was an unusual place to end up

Author:	ellis [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:33 pm ]
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True, but TOC was pretty pissed about Plato, and we did see that one. I just don't understand how these decisions are come to. It's almost like the most corrupt group of people in motorsport sit round a table and decide who the rules apply to. It wouldn't surprise if Flavio was the decision maker.

Author:	phil1993 [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:35 pm ]
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I thought TOC was quite relaxed about it. Neal seems to be driving relatively cleanly this year.

Author:	James B [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:41 pm ]
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ellis wrote: I just don't understand how these decisions are come to. It's almost like the most corrupt group of people in motorsport sit round a table and decide who the rules apply to. In other words, the BTCC is run by the FIA

Author:	ellis [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:16 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote: I thought TOC was quite relaxed about it. Neal seems to be driving relatively cleanly this year. It was more when they asked TOC about the move and he said "I wouldn't call it a move, it was just a crash". Just seems that sometimes the rules are rubbing is racing, and other times rubbing is a DQ. I don't understand the process at all.

Author:	gd49 [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:05 pm ]
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ellis wrote: phil1993 wrote: I thought TOC was quite relaxed about it. Neal seems to be driving relatively cleanly this year. It was more when they asked TOC about the move and he said "I wouldn't call it a move, it was just a crash". Just seems that sometimes the rules are rubbing is racing, and other times rubbing is a DQ. I don't understand the process at all. I think the outcome of the rubbing plays a big part - tapping someone out the way to pass them seems to be ok, but if they then crash, expect a penalty. Witness Collard vs Neal a couple of years ago at Brands - no penalty for Neal pushing Collard out the way at Clearways, but when Collard returned the favour at Paddock Hill, sending Neal into the barriers, Collard got a penalty. It is still inconsistent though, Kane got penalised for tapping Plato at Paddock Hill last year, but I can't see a difference between that and Plato pushing TOC out the way at the hairpin. I'm not sure if there's a solution - both DTM and V8 Supercars have gone too far with penalities, damaging the racing. I'd rather have inconsistencies allowing for some contact and better racing rather than that.

Author:	Gaara [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:56 pm ]
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That was Jonathan Adam not Kane. Plato braked early too.

Author:	James B [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:58 pm ]
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And of course there's Nash losing his win at Snetterton They like taking good results away from the little guys. I'm surprised PON hasn't been banned yet for something inconsequential. Heaven forbid if Kane challenges for the title

Author:	Gaara [ Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:03 pm ]
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Oh yeaa when Collard wrecked himself chopping across the front of his nose. Could have been because the result was two cars out of the race even though it wasn't Nash's fault.

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Author:	danny87 [ Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:07 pm ]
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Found some pics of the Jordan / Neate incident, quite hilarious the last pic. http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums ... p?t=234551

Author:	ellis [ Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:51 am ]
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Looks more like Jordans fault. The BMWs on the far right of the circuit.

Author:	Crashedfiesta [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:25 pm ]
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danny87 wrote: Found some pics of the Jordan / Neate incident, quite hilarious the last pic. http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums ... p?t=234551 Thanks for the link. I was sat on the main straight so had no idea what had happened until I got home and looked at the tv recording. Can't believe the cameras missed the actual incident.

Author:	Eddington mains [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:09 pm ]
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Crashedfiesta wrote: Thanks for the link. I was sat on the main straight so had no idea what had happened until I got home and looked at the tv recording. Can't believe the cameras missed the actual incident. hey... Shouldve paid a bit more attention here... I had AAA passes and full access to the Ginetta hospitality... Freebies! Did you get in the paddock?? G50 cars 10 and 11.. I was the guy on the stick getting in the way.