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Author: | racer69 [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:44 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
Scotty wrote: Or new TV rights holder, seeing as 7 spent in excess of a billion for the AFL rights, they wouldn't be able to afford the V8 rights anymore. Given the financial troubles that Nine and Ten are in, i think 7 is probably the one who could most afford it. Some tips i've read have 7 keeping Bathurst (and perhaps a couple of others), with the bulk of the races sold elsewhere (with Foxtel part of the deal) As for the announcement, how is a new manufacturer entering the series "a significant announcement in the history of the series" (as the speedcafe article states) given plenty of other makes have run the series over the years? I'd say its more likely a new event.... or maybe V8Supercars will tell us the record crowd that will attend Clipsal |
Author: | Mitch the Bitch [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:48 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
Tim Slade's Lucky 7 Ford. A shitload better than last year's. Karl Reindler's Fair Dinkum Sheds Commodore (for Kelly Racing): And as for the TV rights, wasn't it Foxtel and/or Telstra who pitched in the majority of the AFL money anyway? |
Author: | Ospi [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:47 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
Nissan are joining the series next season |
Author: | racer69 [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
Ospi wrote: Nissan are joining the series next season Ironic if it is indeed Nissan....... given V8Supercars was created primarily to get them out of the series in the first place! |
Author: | Shane [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:51 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
I was gonna ask about that, I remember something about thrm telling Nissan to GTFO. |
Author: | racer69 [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
Shane wrote: I was gonna ask about that, I remember something about thrm telling Nissan to GTFO. In a nutshell; In 1992, works cars in the series were fielded by Nissan (GTR), BMW (M3), Holden (Commodore VN) and Toyota (in the 1600cc class), with plenty of competitive Ford Sierra's as well (DJR, Glenn Seton Racing, Colin Bond etc..) It was announced in 1990 that a new set of touring car regulations to replace Group A (which had been in place since 1985) was to be introduced from the start of 1993... but no actual regs were announced until early 1992. Nissan had backed Australian touring car racing non-stop since 1981, as had BMW (bar 89-90). Holden's interest had waned since the Brock-split in 1987, while Ford hadn't been interested officially since the end of the "Moffat Ford Dealers" team in 1978... in other words no one was tipping in more money and support to the series than BMW & Nissan at the time. Problem was that Holden wasn't winning enough (not that they were trying too hard), and Ford wanted to back the newly re-introduced V8 Falcon's in the series (which weren't homologated in Group A), so they both got together & threatened to pull out and perhaps start a breakaway series (with the support of series sponsor Shell, and series broadcaster Channel 7), and railroaded a set of regulations through CAMS (who were leaning towards a set of regs that allowed 2-litre Super Touring to be competitive with Holden & Ford V8s) that blatantly favoured cars with V8s. Ultimatly turbo's were banned at the end of 1992 (which did away with the dominant Nissan GTRs, and the previously dominant Sierra's), while the works BMW's were welcomed at the start of 1993, but ultimatly treated like grid fillers (as there weren't enough new-spec V8s at the start of 1993) and paritied out of competitiveness. Its ironic that Nissan are the first too return, especially as V8Supercars are making out they really need their money injection now.... |
Author: | Cheeveer [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:26 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
Is it really reasonable to hold grudge after 20 years? Nah, not really. I hope the fans welcome any new manufacturer with open arms. |
Author: | Woodski [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:48 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
dicksplaash wrote: Is it really reasonable to hold grudge after 20 years? Nah, not really. I hope the fans welcome any new manufacturer with open arms. Oh yes it is. |
Author: | Juihi [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
dicksplaash wrote: Is it really reasonable to hold grudge after 20 years? Nah, not really. I hope the fans welcome any new manufacturer with open arms. V8 Bogans are some of the most stubborn white trash around, I fully expect to see a lot of nasty attitude towards Nissan.... however like all things it's only a part of V8 fans that are like that, I'm sure the rest of the "Non-Asshole" fans will welcome the decision, and lets hope this is the first of many manufacturers to join! |
Author: | Woodski [ Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:28 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
I guess I'm stubborn white trash then. Oh well. |
Author: | mclaren2008 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:05 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Nissan are Back |
Quote: NISSAN will join the V8 Supercars Championship in 2013 and become the first new manufacturer to enter the sport under its new ‘Car of the Future’ rulebook. The news was announced today at a press conference in the River Room at Crown Casino in Melbourne. The Japanese car giant will take on Holden and Ford in next year’s championship – the first run under new ‘Car of the Future’ rules. Kelly Racing has signed with Nissan to become the company’s factory team and will run four cars next year from their Melbourne workshop. The team will have the full support of the giant NISMO Nissan Motorsport organisation. Announcing the news today was Nissan Australia Managing Director and CEO Dan Thompson, Ian Moreillon (Executive General Manager, Sales and Fleet, Nissan Australia), V8 Supercars Chairman Tony Cochrane and V8 Supercars CEO David Malone. “We plan to use our presence in the series to strengthen our passenger car credentials in Australia,” said CEO and Managing Director of Nissan Australia Dan Thompson. “Nissan believes that, alongside Ford and Holden, we possess the most convincing motorsport DNA and track history in Australia, making a V8SC debut in 2013 an obvious initiative. “We are targeting No.1 importer status in Australia and already making progress towards that as one of the country’s fastest growing brands. V8 Supercars will boost that momentum.” The announcement signals the return of Nissan to the top form of touring car racing in Australia after an absence of two decades. It last ran a factory team with Gibson Motorsport and four-wheel drive Nissan GT-Rs in 1992, claiming the Australian Touring Car Championship with Mark Skaife and the Bathurst 1000 with Skaife and Jim Richards. V8 Supercars Commission Chairman Mark Skaife, Kelly Racing Chairman John Crennan and Kelly Racing co-owner/drivers Rick and Todd Kelly were also at today’s announcement. “I couldn't be more excited with the opportunity Nissan has offered Todd, myself and the entire team at Kelly Racing to become their official factory team,” said two-time Bathurst winner Rick Kelly. “Nissan's genuine enthusiasm, unwavering support and absolute professionalism through this evaluation has been tremendous and underpins their absolute intentions of Championship success in the category - a dream we share and hope to deliver on.” The model of Nissan that the team will use – and the engine package the car will utilise – will be announced at a later date. Nissan’s worldwide motorsport activites of late have proven to be strong and successful. They won last year’s FIA GT1 World Championship with a Nissan GT-R driven by Germans Lucas Luhr and Michael Krumm as well as the Japanese SuperGT Championship and took a 1-2 finish in the LMP2 class at the Le Mans 24 Hour. QUOTEBOOK Rick Kelly, Kelly Racing Co-Owner/Driver “This new partnership has only been made possible by the endless amount of hard work that John Crennan has done for Kelly Racing on this project, and that of Ian Moreillon, Jeff Fisher and the team at Nissan of which Todd and I are very grateful. “The Nissan COTF project is a huge undertaking however Todd and I are firmly focused on the job at hand this season ensuring that Kelly Racing takes those important steps forward on and off the race track. “Development of our cars and recruitment of key personnel in the off-season should assist us to realise these immediate goals. “This new partnership brings with it a host of opportunities for the team, our business partners and of course fans and delivers the vision that we have shared since our inception in the category in 2009.” Todd Kelly, Kelly Racing Co-Owner/Driver “Rick and I have had one clear goal that we have been striving for since we started Kelly Racing, that was to become a benchmark race-winning team with factory support. “The timing with Car of the Future has enabled us to engage a manufacturer and achieve that. “We couldn't be happier to be a factory Nissan team and factory Nissan drivers.” Tony Cochrane, V8 Supercars Chairman “We welcome Nissan with more than open arms. “This announcement ratifies all we have known about V8 Supercars for a long time – that we are an international player, a growing following globally and in great demand by big business and corporate players. “I also applaud Kelly Racing for this pioneering move to embrace Nissan and take one of the world’s biggest brands on their journey within the V8 Supercar Championship. Todd and Rick are truly remarkable businessmen, visionaries and drivers.” Mark Skaife, V8 Supercars Commission Chairman “This opens up a whole new chapter for V8 Supercars. “The sport and the brand have been so successful over such a long period of time with today’s news reinforcing the direction of the business, coupled with imminent international expansion to multiple destinations globally. “Nissan has clearly acknowledged V8 Supercars as a major component of their future plans within the Australian car market and motorsport internationally. V8 Supercars will deliver on their expectations. “There is no doubting the entry of more manufacturers now that Nissan has taken the first step to recognize what the relationship will do for their brand.” http://www.v8supercars.com.au/champions ... fault.aspx |
Author: | hedgey666 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:29 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
Great news. Will be nice to see a bit more variety in the series. With any luck the first Nissan win will cause as much problems among the bigots as the first Toyota win in NASCAR. |
Author: | Mitch the Bitch [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:00 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
hedgey666 wrote: With any luck the first Nissan win will cause as much problems among the bigots as the first Toyota win in NASCAR. And hopefully the driver that wins does this in response: |
Author: | hedgey666 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:44 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Nissan to join in 2013 |
"Pack of arseholes" Good description. |
Author: | Mitch the Bitch [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Nissan to join in 2013 |
Shane Van Gisbergen's SP Tools Ford |
Author: | garbo [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Nissan to join in 2013 |
Ingall's new livery. Holdsworth's livery with additional sponsors added to what was revealed at Sydney last year. |
Author: | racer69 [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:52 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Prémat to GRM |
Scotty wrote: Great way to put it. The thick morons (read some on Speedcafe's fb page) are already chirping up, but fuck them, they aren't Holden's Ford's and Nissan's anymore anyway. If it wasn't for the 'thick morons' (as you term it), the series would be as popular as Sports Sedans are now. They make up the bulk of the following. Holden vs Ford is what has made Australian tin-top racing go round ever since their first 'battle' in the 1968 Hardie-Ferodo 1000 |
Author: | Juihi [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Nissan to join in 2013 |
New NZ Supertourers series begins next weekend |
Author: | garbo [ Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:56 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Nissan to join in 2013 |
A photo gallery from today's test at Sandown http://www.speedcafe.com/2012/02/11/gal ... n-v8-test/ The combined results of the 2 sessions. Only David Reynolds who topped the 1st session didn't go faster in the 2nd session. Premat was the slowest of the regular season drivers and was beaten by enduro drivers Steve Richards and Cam McConville. Code: V8 Supercar The Nissan GTR is back as the Safety Car for this year. |
Author: | Mitch the Bitch [ Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2012 V8 Supercar Discussion - Nissan to join in 2013 |
HRT's transporter for this year. Quite possibly the greatest transporter I've ever seen |
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