TBK-Light.com

Motorsport videos and chat.
It is currently Wed May 15, 2024 8:18 pm

All times are UTC+01:00




Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 210 posts ]  Go to page Previous 13 4 5 6 711 Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:04 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:22 pm
Posts: 93608
Location: New ribs please...
Has thanked: 398 times
Been thanked: 1343 times
Nearly half a second, suicide watch for Rosberg again?


Top
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 5:47 pm 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:08 pm
Posts: 4281
Location: 1980s
Has thanked: 667 times
Been thanked: 190 times
I can't believe how bad Renault are now compared to ten years ago. It was a completely different team back then but still, they're just embarrassing now.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:13 pm 
Offline
The Finnish Paul Page
The Finnish Paul Page
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:07 pm
Posts: 6308
Location: Racing is in my blood
Has thanked: 725 times
Been thanked: 563 times
iks wrote:
I can't believe how bad Renault are now compared to ten years ago. It was a completely different team back then but still, they're just embarrassing now.



It's not a Renault, it's a bancrupt remains of Lotus-Mercedes design from a team that didn't have money for team catering. Design was for a completely different power unit and I don't think much of development was done between January 2015 - January 2016. New regs for 2017 is a saving grace for the team. They might a be serious contender for 2018.

_________________
"Indy doesn't give you a second chance. You have to earn it."


Top
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:17 pm 
Offline
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:39 pm
Posts: 15445
Has thanked: 408 times
Been thanked: 1658 times
What amazes me is how Red Bull can claim that Renault have made great progress with the power unit (in 2016) and the team are backing that up with solid results, beating Ferrari consistently, yet Renault have spent barely any tokens. Something doesn't add up with that.

_________________
BTCC Pick Em's Champion 2010
Formula Fun Cup Champion 2013
http://www.the-fastlane.co.uk


Top
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 7:46 pm 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:08 pm
Posts: 4281
Location: 1980s
Has thanked: 667 times
Been thanked: 190 times
NVirkkula wrote:
iks wrote:
I can't believe how bad Renault are now compared to ten years ago. It was a completely different team back then but still, they're just embarrassing now.



It's not a Renault, it's a bancrupt remains of Lotus-Mercedes design from a team that didn't have money for team catering. Design was for a completely different power unit and I don't think much of development was done between January 2015 - January 2016. New regs for 2017 is a saving grace for the team. They might a be serious contender for 2018.


Which is why I said it's a completely different team. Even Lotus in their last year was better though than Renault have been this season.


Top
   
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 11:43 pm 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member
User avatar

Joined: Sat Aug 30, 2008 3:46 pm
Posts: 3525
Has thanked: 32 times
Been thanked: 193 times
Why the hell did Renault leave in the first place? I don't get these companies, instead of maintaining a succesfull team they leave the sport. then a few years later they come back and have a huge mountain to climb and are spending money with no results to show for it and bad press.

Don't leave you idiots, just maintain your team that was in championship contention every few seasons. That's much more economicly friendly than quiting and returning every few years


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:18 am 
Offline
Founder of the Yaytree
Founder of the Yaytree
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:27 pm
Posts: 28215
Location: Birmingham, UK (Not near DEGA :( )
Has thanked: 1301 times
Been thanked: 1871 times
cookie wrote:
Why the hell did Renault leave in the first place? I don't get these companies, instead of maintaining a succesfull team they leave the sport. then a few years later they come back and have a huge mountain to climb and are spending money with no results to show for it and bad press.

Don't leave you idiots, just maintain your team that was in championship contention every few seasons. That's much more economicly friendly than quiting and returning every few years


New management love to completely cancel the previous regime's projects and start fresh as a statement no matter how well or badly the previous management's projects were going.

That's why relying on Manufacturers for the health of your series is naive at best, one board change or negative fiscal statement and they're gone and to hell with the health of your championship.

_________________
RIP Birmingham Wheels: here's some of the crash videos I recorded when it was there:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIaKIE ... 5t9d5PvoHA

Twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/paulhadsley


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:08 am 
Offline
Gold Member
Gold Member

Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:54 pm
Posts: 3155
Has thanked: 323 times
Been thanked: 335 times
kals wrote:
What amazes me is how Red Bull can claim that Renault have made great progress with the power unit (in 2016) and the team are backing that up with solid results, beating Ferrari consistently, yet Renault have spent barely any tokens. Something doesn't add up with that.


They still have 21 tokens left and aren't going to use them. Instead they are working on the software side for improvements and are putting all their eggs in next years engine....we know how that worked out last year.

I would have thought they would have thrown all the tokens at it this year so as to actually get real world data and feedback on what works, rather than relying on dyno and sim work which has given them 2 crap engines and one OK one out of 3.

But as others have said Renault have a massive financial burden with trying to get the team off the ground, perhaps they don't have the allocated funds to develop both?


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:08 am 
Offline
Junior Member
Junior Member

Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:50 am
Posts: 122
Has thanked: 9 times
Been thanked: 6 times
codename_47 wrote:
cookie wrote:
Why the hell did Renault leave in the first place? I don't get these companies, instead of maintaining a succesfull team they leave the sport. then a few years later they come back and have a huge mountain to climb and are spending money with no results to show for it and bad press.

Don't leave you idiots, just maintain your team that was in championship contention every few seasons. That's much more economicly friendly than quiting and returning every few years


New management love to completely cancel the previous regime's projects and start fresh as a statement no matter how well or badly the previous management's projects were going.

That's why relying on Manufacturers for the health of your series is naive at best, one board change or negative fiscal statement and they're gone and to hell with the health of your championship.



F1 Teams are like a rich old man and manufacturers (and sponsors) are like a 20 year old model. They are only with you for your money and will leave you at the drop of a hat.


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:53 am 
Offline
Russian Propaganda Machine - Benelux Division
Russian Propaganda Machine - Benelux Division
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:05 pm
Posts: 7552
Location: home
Has thanked: 1252 times
Been thanked: 391 times
Here's hoping the two Ferrari's get ahead at the start


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:36 am 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:22 pm
Posts: 93608
Location: New ribs please...
Has thanked: 398 times
Been thanked: 1343 times
All the excitement was in Porsche's today, it'll be dull.


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:55 am 
Offline
Silver Member
Silver Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:46 am
Posts: 1591
Has thanked: 84 times
Been thanked: 18 times
Well 3 Flips
1 in GP2
2 in PSC

Well let's see how this turns out


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:04 pm 
Offline
2011 TBK-Light most negative awards, award winner
2011 TBK-Light most negative awards, award winner
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:14 am
Posts: 15471
Has thanked: 863 times
Been thanked: 639 times
things happen in 3's and we've had 3 flips

_________________
Follow me on Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/135625678@N06/


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:06 pm 
Offline
Silver Member
Silver Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:46 am
Posts: 1591
Has thanked: 84 times
Been thanked: 18 times
Showing the 1988 Italian Grand Prix


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:48 pm 
Offline
Silver Member
Silver Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:25 pm
Posts: 1542
Location: Wroclaw, Poland
Has thanked: 14 times
Been thanked: 19 times
What have they done to Italian anthem? :/


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:51 pm 
Offline
Russian Propaganda Machine - Benelux Division
Russian Propaganda Machine - Benelux Division
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:05 pm
Posts: 7552
Location: home
Has thanked: 1252 times
Been thanked: 391 times
Looking forward to more Verstappen controversy and Rosberg mess-ups.


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 12:58 pm 
Offline
Russian Propaganda Machine - Benelux Division
Russian Propaganda Machine - Benelux Division
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:05 pm
Posts: 7552
Location: home
Has thanked: 1252 times
Been thanked: 391 times
Note that they have the barrier on the approach to t1 extended, probably to prevent a Liuzzi cannonball crash.


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:00 pm 
Offline
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:22 pm
Posts: 93608
Location: New ribs please...
Has thanked: 398 times
Been thanked: 1343 times
Formation lap under way.


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:01 pm 
Offline
Russian Propaganda Machine - Benelux Division
Russian Propaganda Machine - Benelux Division
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 7:05 pm
Posts: 7552
Location: home
Has thanked: 1252 times
Been thanked: 391 times
Rosberg/Ham crash come on...


Top
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:02 pm 
Offline
Founder of the Yaytree
Founder of the Yaytree
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:27 pm
Posts: 28215
Location: Birmingham, UK (Not near DEGA :( )
Has thanked: 1301 times
Been thanked: 1871 times
Jordan said Bernie will step down before the next race?

Oofff, just imagine it

Anyway, not sure what I expect from this race, not much.

Probably the best way to go into it.

_________________
RIP Birmingham Wheels: here's some of the crash videos I recorded when it was there:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIaKIE ... 5t9d5PvoHA

Twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/paulhadsley


Top
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 210 posts ]  Go to page Previous 13 4 5 6 711 Next

All times are UTC+01:00


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 35 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited