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Bingo. If you get two concecutive concussions, you could very well have symptoms for the rest of your life.

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Three times World Champion Nelson Piquet is coming back. He'll compete in Porsche Cup series in 2015 season.

This is amazing because I'll have an unique opportunity to see him driving in Interlagos. I thought I'd never see Piquet Senior driving again. It feels like watching Michael Jordan coming back to a masters championship. At least it feels like that.

I had already watched Emmo Fittipaldi driving in Interlagos, now it's Piquet Senior. Amazing!

If they knew he had a concussion, they knew then and there he would get the advice to not race in Melbourne. He knows he has no chance to win that elusive third world title. And he never will. If any rumbling with Ron Dennis starts, my bet is on Alonso retiring or taking a sabbatical.

everybody knows that he was riding his bike at the tennis court, while playing tennis

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So who will replace him? Mags?

Yes.

I'm hoping that Phil is right and there isn't some issue that we don't know about.

It reminds me of Ralf Schumacher. I think he had a big testing accident at Monza one season and ended up missing a race. Then when he had his accident at Indy, he suffered another concussion. I think another big accident after this would have been very dangerous, so he sat out several more races.

Well I'll be damned. I was heavily critical of the media throughout and it turns out they were largely correct. And now I'm starting to think that if I was wrong on the media about this, then perhaps I've got the Dailymail all wrong as well? *gulp*

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I'm sure that an experienced driver like Alonso wouldn't lose his car with 135kph in a 235kph corner.
The wind can't be the cause, unless the McLaren is very fragile. A helicopter couldn't land in the described conditions.
An F1 car (rim) would probably resist 30g at that speed and not damage the driver.
Vettel has changed his statement, probably under pressure from somebody?
Also, why would they keep him in the hospital for 3 days?
I still think that Alonso has suffered something comparable to a heart attack or a small stroke.
But in the end, I am sure that someone is hiding something from us.

I don't like conspiracy, but this time it seems obvious that something is wrong.

Or maybe everyone is just fucking confused, including McLaren

Well considering he'd run wide, yeaa he can lose his car at that speed.

- The circuit is quite high up compared to the local area, which makes it exposed. It was very, very windy on that Sunday, plus the BBC now claims it was 135mph. If you look at Maldonado last year, it's simple to see how the accident could happen. If (we don't know) Alonso dipped a wheel on the astroturf at the precise moment a gust blew, then that explains it.

It's not the 30g (allegedly) that's the problem, it's the sustained pressure plus the likelihood that there was a second impact. He struck the wall at just precisely the wrong angle.

Vettel never really changed his story. People picked him up on being behind Alonso and using his information at a time when there was a bit of a strange atmosphere. Vettel emphasised later on that he was too far behind Alonso to see the start - what he probably saw was the moment before Alonso hit the wall, hence why it looked strange.

Keeping him in for three days? It seems excessive, but it's most likely erring on the side of caution and to ensure that everything was normal.

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O HAI


while we wait for the season to start lol

p.s Alonso just lost control of the car, it was testing, car is unpredictable and it's capabilities/limits are unknown till you drive it around, it happens ffs. The wind contributed to losing control, he over corrected and hit the wall. Big deal. He's probably just sulking and making it look like something was wrong and he cba driving the shit thing cos of his ego failing at Ferrari and now gotta face the shame and struggle at Honda (ignore the last sentence if you're an Alonso fanboy, it's just my sarcastic opinion)

Another Sky Trailer

[dailymotion]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2il6y0_sky-deutschland-2015-f1-trailer-ferrari_auto[/dailymotion]

But did he run wide? If I remember correctly, Vettel saw strange movements from Alonso, not a driver error.
I don't deny that in testing, any driver could run wide and lose control, but at half speed? Driving into the wall without breaking?
Looks strange to me.
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phil1993: Okay, I saw the video, Vettel couldn't see the accident perfectly.
The accident itself was hard because of the angle, and I agree that this alone can cause injuries, but I am not sure what happened before that.

Video?

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Tbh I think 99% of the ZOMGconspiracy angle is down to a classic McLaren inability to manage the press. I mean seriously, how often do they fuck up their story in the interests of protecting the brand?

There is nothing odd about the concussion line.

- He hit the wall at an angle where the impact could be transmitted directly through the suspension and into the car - we know this because the car was only really damaged on the right-hand wheels and the wing. The lack of suspension damage indicates that the forces were transmitted into the car.
- He took two hard blows to the head. One from the rear wheel hitting, and another from the front. The marks on the wall bear this out.
- When the normal energy absorption doesn't happen, even a 'slow' crash can be very violent. If you've not read Martin Brundle's Working the Wheel, there's a passage where he shunts the Toyota GT1 before it was properly crash-ready, and he described it as the most painful accident in his entire career.
- Three days in a hospital for a concussion is not too odd. Only one source seemed to report 'intensive care', so we can probably dismiss that.
- As has been mentioned above, three weeks of rest isn't unusual either.

The more we learn about concussion, the more seriously we have taken it - look at Franchitti, for example. There are already rules in football and rugby to protect players from second events. I wouldn't be surprised if the FIA does something similar.

Few questions remains a mystery to me.

Why there's only one skid mark before the car left the track? It's relatively long one too. If Alonso lost it in already reduced speed, then how come the impacts were so big and spread out?

15Gs were measured from Alonso's ear plug sensor. Is there a comparison of what 15Gs means in terms of concussion or brain injury? I know the brain is very sensitive for even the smallest hits, like falling down and landing on your head can kill you sensitive. But where is 15Gs compared to that?

Finally. Would Alonso use the crash as an excuse to avoid driving? I highly doubt that, but since the whole accident and media announcements seems to lack consistency (as is McLaren-Honda), is there more than just a unfortunate hit to the head? The rumor has it that Fernando was out for a while and afterwards thought he was driving a Ferrari at the time of the crash.

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