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I think they actually want to keep that going for next season.

yeah they're doing like the British GP trophy, is not a permanent posession for the driver

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The trophies are given permanently, but they seem to have recognised how many teams insist on keeping them, which I have always found a bit questionable when they get their own one.

Officially, only the winner is usually allowed to do donuts. Everybody else still needs to bring the car straight back to parc ferme without delay and without stopping.

A special (and very detailed) exception was made for today (FIA = Frequently and Intensely Anal):



I suppose the team didn't want to have him breaking the rules. Still, the punishment goes to the driver, so fuck Haas in this case.

factually, lewis compromised the first half of his season to develop the car - this is not opinion. factually, lewis drove better than russell the 2nd half of the year (dnfs are understandably set aside when discussing a driver's form. i'm far from the first person to do this). factually, lewis outqualified russell the 2nd half of the year. points don't always tell the full story

russell had a fantastic season and may turn out to be lewis' strongest teammate by the end of his career, including alonso. like omega said, lewis didn't dominate russell showing just how strong he really is. and which also means merc may have the strongest driver pairing on the grid.

Wow when races get dull then you all spend your time revelling in your Lewis hate boners huh?

Not sure why were still arguing this after so many years, Lewis is clearly a once in a generation talent and for George to do so well bodes well for him in the future too

But the comparison between them isn't fair as stated. It's 100% true Lewis was the test bed for Mercedes early in the season as the team didn't think it was fair to sacrifice the "rookie" to do that when he'd just got to the team. (Also makes sense because Lewis has a bigger bank of experience to draw on too)

Even so, George only beat him in Australia and Imola because of 2 very fortunate VSCs when Lewis had pitted and he hadn't and that caused a huge points swing
And lets not even mention the fact he only won a race because of causing a red flag in qualifying (deliberate or not, we'll never know). Without that, other people would've deposed him and without the Lewis and Max crash he'd have likely just been a sprint race winner too as Max would've gobbled him up.

You can interpret the stats whatever way you want if you don't like Lewis, but whatever, it's not gonna change anything, we're just spaffing off on a forum and no-one from Mercedes or F1 is reading this, Mercedes didn't win and we're debating the mid positions of the top ten, who cares really?

If they make a compettitve car next year, that might change things, but atm George is happy to learn from Lewis and wait until Lewis retires so he can lead this team.

Anyway, a bad race but still a better one than I expected. I guess I was already in "appreciate every last lap because the off season withdrawl is coming" mode because it kept me entertained just enough, a bit like a longer F2 race with a potential change in the result in the closing stages but it all ending in order.

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Can you for once not write anything that is the length of an average thesis?

I agree that the race was a bit dull.

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I just TL:DR it all. Often is just utter fanboi crap anyways

Some things I've learned this morning.

1. Ferrari LITERALLY saved up their amazing strategy play for the last race, when it meant so much less:



2. Verstappen is so young that he hasn't formed a working memory:



So, using a teammate to block your rival is fine when your name is Max...

Perez also didn't had one of his best races yesterday, he lacked pace throughout the race and when he throwed all in it was too late

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I did just take the time to read because I admit, I was curious. I regret it.

Just wondered about something with regards to all those donuts being performed. Obviously they put extra strain on the drivetrain components, but do those components actually get used in the upcoming post-season test? Or like most race used components, would they get sent back to the factory for inspection/maintenance before before allocated for use again?

I suspect the latter, otherwise I can't imagine the teams would be fine with letting drivers perform donuts on components which are allocated for test use, and potentially cost the team valuable track time in case of a breakdown.

You two spent all race (and all season, tbh) posting specifically furious about anything Hamilton did and any time anyone comes along and presents an alternative viewpoint (or in the real world: the facts) all you have to come back with is the length of the post?

It's not me that's looking unhinged here, I'm afraid.

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If you think that what you wrote are facts, then good for you!

The fact that you can't see them is bad for you

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All right, I'll bite. Football in Qatar sucks and all.

A fact is for example, Verstappen won the race. Hamilton finished 6th in the championship, Russell 4th. So Russell finished higher.

What is not a fact: yeah but Hamilton deserved it more, he had bad luck,... That's an opinion. You can be right or wrong or whatever, but it's not a fact.


ridiculous assumption. Not a fact.


Opinion. Not a fact. Is he good? Obviously. Once in a generation? Doubt it. Could be, could not be. Not a fact.


The only fact here is that Hamilton had more experience. It's not because you put "100% true" in front of it, that it's true. Rumoured, yes. Possible, yes. 100% true? Doubt it, seems like you want it to be true to ease your mind on why he underperformed. Could even be that Mercedes told it to ease THEIR mind on why he underperformed.


In the past years Hamilton became a bit famous for his luck of being able to pit under VSC when others couldn't, and generally getting everything handed to him. In 2021 it seemed like his luck started to change, he made errors, Mercedes made errors... In 2022 he had more of that bad luck, or you could also say he had less of that good luck.
I'll classify this under that's racing for you.
Imola? Where Hamilton was nowhere all weekend, qualified 13th (fact), lost a place in the sprint race (fact), and could not improve one bit and finished 13th, a lap down (fact) while Russell went from 11th to 4th? That Imola? I don't even remember a VSC there.


This one I found the most amusing. You say let's not even mention the fact, followed up by the most hypothetical situation with assumptions and what ifs that didn't happen. And you call that a fact?
Was it deliberate? Don't know. Maybe. Seriously doubt it. But it was for a sprint race. He won the race because he won the sprint race (I assume. Not a fact. It helped him, but nobody knows what would have happened if he had started 2nd or 3rd or behind Hamilton.)
Without situation A he would have... See how stupid it is to call it a fact?


Closest to a fact you came in your entire thesis. But Mercedes did win once.


Probably true, but not a fact.

Too long, not reading, try not writing a thesis

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