Formula 1 DHL Turkish Grand Prix 2020

Karan · PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:47 pm

- Aside from sticking his nose in and causing bit of a mess at the start, finally this season a well deserved win by Hamilton. Kept it clean, drove patiently and managed his tires well even though he was no where on the first stint.
- What an embarrassingly bad race by Bottas. Really goes to show what a weak number 2 driver he is to keep life comfortable for Hamilton at the top. He definitely did his best Massa impression today alright.
- Was particularly amusing to see Verstappen and Leclerc chucking away solid positions with their silly mistakes.
- Last but not least, what a beautifully mature drive by Sebastian to bring it home in P3, his experience really shone through today.

De Cesaris fan · PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:07 pm

I still thought it was a great race. The differences between certain cars and drivers at different parts of the race made it impossible to predict. It looked as if Racing Point were going to drive off into the distance, and then the Red Bulls came flying up behind them. Then Lewis came alive, along with the Ferraris. Where did Sainz come from at the end as well? Some of those guys were 50 seconds off the Racing Points early in the race.

Yeah, it was disappointing to see another Hamilton win after all that, but it was a great drive. The bald inters may have helped, but I think Bottas had them on before a late pit stop? Didn't seem to help him. Also Perez, whose tyres went off a cliff on the final lap.

Maybe if we had some more rain with a few laps to go, whilst the leaders were on bald tyres, things would have been really interesting.

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:29 pm

One thing is fact, Pirelli inters looked like Bridgestone hards today

NVirkkula · PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:00 pm

As much I hated Hamilton winning it, he didn't do any mistake while Racing Point and Red Bulls did. He collected the prize while everyone else let it slip off of their hands. He wasn't the only one with good tire management but he did make a good call staying on the track and see how it goes. He gambled good and earned his luck today.

6/10 and for wet weather race that's low score to me. Not because of the winner, but because not much happened...and given the circumstances it's surprise that it was this dull.

EAS · PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:50 pm

One thing this race had and I wish we had this more often was changing conditions.

Wet track had Racing Point and Red Bull prevailing. As the track got drier Mercedes, Ferrari and McLaren showed up. Probably this had to do with how the teams setup their cars in relation to the weather. Anyway, cars had their performance varying througout the race.

I think we could have more of this in dry races if the tracks and the cars weren't so similar to each other.

James B · PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:59 pm

Feel like it got lost at the end that Lando got fastest lap. He was on worn inters like Lewis

gkmotorsport · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:39 am

Vettel said that they debated a stop for slicks, and that he thinks in hindsight that they could have won had they done it. Looking at Lewis and Lando, I think he might be right.

mclaren2008 · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:42 am

They should have done it but I guess they thought the other cars would pit and they'd stay out

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:59 am

I loved that this track didn't dry as fast as you would expect, gave us an almost fully wet GP despite no rain during the race.

It's frustrating that this ends up being a Hamilton win despite all the outsiders at the front. Including Vettel really, a Vettel win would've been great to see!

But nobody can deny that Lewis has just become a master at this art. He is the undisputed big boss of the discipline, even if you adjust for car performance. He has reached the same level of perfection that Michael had with Ferrari. Some of his drives, especially lasting on tyres beyond reason, are up there with the greatest drives of F1 history.

Neil · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:22 am

Gaara wrote:

Bottas didn't touch any one in that spin.

The second spin in this was also on lap 1.

Juihi · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:34 am

Such a waste of a top seat

alex1369 · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:31 pm

Juihi wrote:

Such a waste of a top seat

Yeh put Riccardo or Verstappen there, and then it will be 2016 all over again, to the finish

webbsy · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:32 pm

Didn't watch the race but wow...6 spins for Bottas. That's two more than Massa's effort. Didn't know it was possible to have a more pathetic outing than that.

Dan Belcher · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:37 pm

I am shocked they didn't retire Bottas's car if it was that difficult to drive thanks to the damage. Great way to get somebody hurt or killed.

Speaking of damage...

Quote:

On Monday, Racing Point released a statement saying it had found a root cause for Stroll’s problems that had not been obvious during the race itself.

“It was discovered during the team’s routine after race car set down that damage to the underside of Lance’s front wing was a significant contributor to the severe graining issues that Lance experienced during his second and third stints on the intermediate tires at the Turkish Grand Prix,” the statement read.

“Lance reported poor tire performance, significant understeer and graining from Lap 17 onwards in the race. Pitting for a fresh set of intermediates on Lap 36 failed to resolve the problem with the graining becoming even more severe.

“One of the strakes on the underside of the front wing came loose and lodged itself in such a way that the blockage caused a significant loss of front downforce. The resultant loss of front downforce contributed to increased levels of graining.

“Data during the race confirmed there was a significant loss of front downforce, but with no visible damage to the top side of the front wing, combined with the low-grip conditions, it was difficult to confirm whether the data was correct.

“It was only after the race, when the car returned to the garage, that the damage and blockage to the underside of the front wing was discovered.”

LucasWheldon · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:46 pm

they didn't retired Bottas because Mercedes used him to gather tire information so Lewis could stay out

and one step at a time they're becoming like Ferrari

codename_47 · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:09 pm

Dan Belcher wrote:

I am shocked they didn't retire Bottas's car if it was that difficult to drive thanks to the damage. Great way to get somebody hurt or killed.

Speaking of damage...

Quote:

On Monday, Racing Point released a statement saying it had found a root cause for Stroll’s problems that had not been obvious during the race itself.

“It was discovered during the team’s routine after race car set down that damage to the underside of Lance’s front wing was a significant contributor to the severe graining issues that Lance experienced during his second and third stints on the intermediate tires at the Turkish Grand Prix,” the statement read.

“Lance reported poor tire performance, significant understeer and graining from Lap 17 onwards in the race. Pitting for a fresh set of intermediates on Lap 36 failed to resolve the problem with the graining becoming even more severe.

“One of the strakes on the underside of the front wing came loose and lodged itself in such a way that the blockage caused a significant loss of front downforce. The resultant loss of front downforce contributed to increased levels of graining.

“Data during the race confirmed there was a significant loss of front downforce, but with no visible damage to the top side of the front wing, combined with the low-grip conditions, it was difficult to confirm whether the data was correct.

“It was only after the race, when the car returned to the garage, that the damage and blockage to the underside of the front wing was discovered.”

Damage control from Stroll Snr :whistling:

EAS · PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:06 pm

codename_47 wrote:

Dan Belcher wrote:

I am shocked they didn't retire Bottas's car if it was that difficult to drive thanks to the damage. Great way to get somebody hurt or killed.

Speaking of damage...

Quote:

On Monday, Racing Point released a statement saying it had found a root cause for Stroll’s problems that had not been obvious during the race itself.

“It was discovered during the team’s routine after race car set down that damage to the underside of Lance’s front wing was a significant contributor to the severe graining issues that Lance experienced during his second and third stints on the intermediate tires at the Turkish Grand Prix,” the statement read.

“Lance reported poor tire performance, significant understeer and graining from Lap 17 onwards in the race. Pitting for a fresh set of intermediates on Lap 36 failed to resolve the problem with the graining becoming even more severe.

“One of the strakes on the underside of the front wing came loose and lodged itself in such a way that the blockage caused a significant loss of front downforce. The resultant loss of front downforce contributed to increased levels of graining.

“Data during the race confirmed there was a significant loss of front downforce, but with no visible damage to the top side of the front wing, combined with the low-grip conditions, it was difficult to confirm whether the data was correct.

“It was only after the race, when the car returned to the garage, that the damage and blockage to the underside of the front wing was discovered.”

Damage control from Stroll Snr :whistling:

It looks pretty much like that Frentzen retirement from Nurburgring-99 that was reported as an electrical failure but actually it was just that Frentzen forgot to activate the anti-stall and the car war working perfectly.

Philthy82 · PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:28 am

I love that absolutely no one on any site is taking that statement seriously. Strolls will be Strolls.

Karan · PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:14 am

Well I thought he did quite well to keep it on the road and lead ~50% of the race distance, even though it kinda fell apart after that.

Coldtyre · PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:29 am

webbsy wrote:

Didn't watch the race but wow...6 spins for Bottas. That's two more than Massa's effort. Didn't know it was possible to have a more pathetic outing than that.

Not mine, but a brilliant interpretation seen on the internet: he was simply celebrating Hamilton's title with donuts.

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