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LucasWheldon [ Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:22 pm ]

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Formula 1 Mercedes-Benz Großer Preis von Deutschland 2019

Hockenheimring

Last year's race

Vettel crashed in the lead, while Bottas played a good wingman not attacking Hamilton on his way to a lucky victory

2019 Season Standings
after 10 races

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Constructors championship
POS   DRIVER   NATIONALITY   CAR   PTS
1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   MERCEDES   223
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   MERCEDES   184
3   Max Verstappen   NED   RED BULL RACING HONDA   136
4   Sebastian Vettel   GER   FERRARI   123
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   FERRARI   120
6   Pierre Gasly   FRA   RED BULL RACING HONDA   55
7   Carlos Sainz   ESP   MCLAREN RENAULT   38
8   Kimi Räikkönen   FIN   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   25
9   Lando Norris   GBR   MCLAREN RENAULT   22
10   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   RENAULT   22
11   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   RENAULT   17
12   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   HAAS FERRARI   14
13   Sergio Perez   MEX   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   13
14   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   12
15   Alexander Albon   THA   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   7
16   Lance Stroll   CAN   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   6
17   Romain Grosjean   FRA   HAAS FERRARI   2
18   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   1
19   George Russell   GBR   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   0
20   Robert Kubica   POL   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   0

Constructors championship
POS   TEAM   PTS
1   MERCEDES   407
2   FERRARI   243
3   RED BULL RACING HONDA   191
4   MCLAREN RENAULT   60
5   RENAULT   39
6   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   26
7   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   19
8   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   19
9   HAAS FERRARI   16
10   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   0

Full timetables
all times are local (GMT+2)

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Friday 26th July        
ADAC F4   Practice Session   09:45 - 10:15
Formula 1   First Practice Session   11:00 - 12:30
Formula 1   Formula 1 Pirelli Hot Laps   13:00 - 13:30
Formula 1   Press Conference   13:00 - 14:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   13:00 - 14:15
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Truck Tour   13:30 - 14:00
Formula 1   Second Practice Session   15:00 - 16:30
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup   Practice Session   17:00 - 17:45
Formula 1   Press Conference   18:00 - 19:00
Renault Clio Cup   Practice Session   18:05 - 18:35
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Truck Tour   18:40 - 19:10
         
Saturday 27th July        
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   09:00 - 09:30
Formula 1   Team Pit Stop Practice   09:10 - 09:30
ADAC F4   Qualifying Session 1   09:45 - 10:00
ADAC F4   Qualifying Session 2   10:10 - 10:25
Renault Clio Cup   Qualifying Session   10:50 - 11:20
Formula 1   Third Practice Session   12:00 - 13:00
Formula 1   Mick Schumacher Demonstration (High Speed)   13:05 - 13:10
Formula 1   Formula 1 Pirelli Hot Laps   13:15 - 13:40
Paddock Club   Paddock Club PIt Lane Walk   13:15 - 13:45
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup   Qualifying Session   13:55 - 14:25
Formula 1   Qualifying Session   15:00 - 16:00
Formula 1   Press Conference   16:00 - 17:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Truck Tour   16:15 - 16:45
Formula 1   Formula 1 Pirelli Hot Laps   16:20 - 16:45
ADAC F4    First Race (30 Mins)   17:00 - 17:35
Renault Clio Cup   First Race (25 Mins + 1 Lap)   18:00 - 18:30
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Truck Tour   18:45 - 19:15
         
Sunday 28th July
     
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   08:00 - 09:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Truck Tour   08:30 - 09:00
Renault Clio Cup   Second Race (25 Mins + 1 Lap)   09:30 - 10:00
ADAC F4   Second Race (30 Mins)   10:25 - 11:00
Porsche Mobil 1 Supercup   Race (16 Laps or 30 Mins)   11:25 - 12:00
Formula 1   Formula 1 Pirelli Hot Laps   12:15 - 12:35
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   12:15 - 14:00
Promoter Activity   Mick Schumacher Demonstration   12:45 - 13:00
Paddock Club    Paddock Club Truck Tour   13:25 - 13:55
Formula 1   Drivers' Track Parade (Cars)   13:30 - 14:00
Promoter Activity   Starting Grid Presentation   14:00 - 14:15
Promoter Activity   JU-F13 Air Display   14:20 - 14:30
Formula 1   National Anthem   14:54 - 14:56
Formula 1   Grand Prix (67 Laps or 120 Mins)   15:10 - 17:10

Formula 2 and 3 aren't welcome at Hockenheim

Author:	sebbl [ Mon Jul 22, 2019 9:41 pm ]
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Will we see a white Mercedes?! https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/statu ... 35264?s=20

Author:	Fabs [ Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:53 am ]
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Could be very hot on Friday and Saturday (36-38) with some thunderstorms late afternoon on Saturday. Sunday maybe rain or no rain, temps around 28. Anyway, I won't watch as Mercedes can't lose this race.

Author:	mclaren2008 [ Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:53 am ]
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I like the new Hockenheim. It is a track that can produce decent racing, even in DTM.

Author:	LucasWheldon [ Tue Jul 23, 2019 4:10 pm ]
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sebbl wrote: Will we see a white Mercedes?! https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/statu ... 35264?s=20 might be great, or might be shit, depends on how Petronas will be placed

Author:	Fabs [ Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:45 pm ]
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Scotty wrote: The race in 2014 was the best I can remember in the hybrid era (I'll be honest though I haven't seen many lately). From what I remember, I was on the edge of my seat from lap 1 to like 30, just constant battles. I don't remember this Update on weather predictions: a lot of rain on Sunday so no rain

Author:	iks [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:47 am ]
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Fabs wrote: Scotty wrote: The race in 2014 was the best I can remember in the hybrid era (I'll be honest though I haven't seen many lately). From what I remember, I was on the edge of my seat from lap 1 to like 30, just constant battles. I don't remember this Update on weather predictions: a lot of rain on Sunday so no rain It will rain on Sunday. Vettel will be leading and will fuck up in the rain again. Lewis will win again.

Author:	SFM [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:37 am ]
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I'm going to Hockenheim just for Friday because I have to be somewhere else Saturday and Sunday so I just looked at the schedule, it's very disappointing. F4, Porsche and Clio. Don't wanna say anything but I think that's a pretty shitty support program.

Author:	Fabs [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:22 am ]
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Why would you want to sit in 38 degrees (more under the sun obviously)?

Author:	LucasWheldon [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 4:24 pm ]
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well they could take our idea from Paul Ricard and blend the f1 grid with the clios

Author:	Speedworx [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:10 pm ]
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Good races at the new Hockenheim............um........

Author:	Vassago [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:29 pm ]
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Speedworx wrote: Good races at the new Hockenheim............um........ Can't remember any decent race here after they butchered the straights. This track went from my Top 5 right down to the bottom. I wouldn't mind if they got rid of it and fast. It's even worse than the Hungaroring for me

Author:	Gaara [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:41 pm ]
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Even though the old layout wasn't all that good for racing you had the long blasts between the trees, then you had the cars slipping through the stadium section because they had such low downforce. It was a challenge, now it's pretty much like any other track.

Author:	codename_47 [ Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:43 pm ]
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Speedworx wrote: Good races at the new Hockenheim............um........ 2003, 2008 (SC mid race forcing a change in strategy and Lewis and a couple of others having to fight their way back to the front). 2012, 2014, 2018 Not bad really.

Author:	webbsy [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 2:17 am ]
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The main problem for the new layout for me is that it is just so generic. I've always been baffled at why they made turn 1 soooooo tight, and the run to turn two so short. If they opened up T1 and had a longer run to T2, they could have then had a bigger swithch back through the trees to the straight with a long fast sweeping curve. That would have been really interesting. But I know that they went with what they did so that the spectators could see all the action. And in the process, sacrificed what could have been a really interesting track. But then again it is Tilke, I think he was more interested in making a huge grandstand.

Author:	Beezle [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 6:22 am ]
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But the old one was special. These days I'm even looking forward to Hungary because it's special. Especially shit, but it doesn't matter. Just different than the other tracks which by now are all same.

Author:	Vassago [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 7:03 am ]
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Scotty wrote: I feel like we've had this discussion before, but people seem to forget that pretty much all the Old Hockenheim races sucked (in F1 anyway). If it existed in the DRS era, it might be different, but it didn't. And I get it. I was in Bathurst in '06 on the front straight. The more than 90-100 seconds you don't see a car for seems to take forever. You may as well be watching it on TV, because your neck is craned towards the big screen for 90% of the time. Of the new era Tilke tracks, this is one of the best. Has some great medium speed corners, turn 1 is a great spectacle, and there always seems to be heaps of racing into the hairpin. They didn't suck for me. From the races I watched live, Damon Hill lost his first win ever in 1993 with a burst tyre, Ukyo Katayama was briefly running 3rd in 1994 and then Berger had a shot at winning both races for Benetton in 1996 & 97. The 2000 race was the best of the season and in 2001 Montoya had it covered until the engine blew up. I literally can't remember a damn thing from the butchered version other than Montoya winning in 2003 and the fluke safety car that got Piquet Jr his lone podium in 2008. No circuit had been more soulless in F1 than the new Hockenheim. Beezle wrote: But the old one was special. These days I'm even looking forward to Hungary because it's special. Especially shit, but it doesn't matter. Just different than the other tracks which by now are all same. I'm having the same thoughts. Hungary was dead last for me for years but now I look forward to this sucker The copy/paste Tilkedromes are driving me nuts, they have no soul at all and the best of them (Sepang) is gone from the calendar anyway. I don't even remember what the Korea & India tracks looked like and the Valencia SC was somehow the worst of them all, even worse than Imola with the chicanes.

Author:	SFM [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:07 am ]
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Fabs wrote: Why would you want to sit in 38 degrees (more under the sun obviously)? I live in the desert where the lows are 28C right now, 38C is nothing and I personally consider 38C the perfect temperature. I've experienced up to 49C, lived through days of 47C and that said, I have never experienced too hot but I'm cold below 20C. I'll be fine

Author:	mclaren2008 [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:09 am ]
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The old Hockenheim was a joke track. Just a bunch of straights through a pine forest that claimed Jim Clark's life in 1968. It only got the race after the Nurburgring became unsuitable and there were no other tracks. Name a good race in the 80's or 90's from there. I'm struggling to find anything. The new one has many good races in its history but people seem to loathe it still. Its been almost 20 years now. Move on.

Author:	Fabs [ Thu Jul 25, 2019 10:29 am ]
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SFM wrote: Fabs wrote: Why would you want to sit in 38 degrees (more under the sun obviously)? I live in the desert where the lows are 28C right now, 38C is nothing and I personally consider 38C the perfect temperature. I've experienced up to 49C, lived through days of 47C and that said, I have never experienced too hot but I'm cold below 20C. I'll be fine Chill, didn't know there are deserts in Germany.

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