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Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
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Author:  LucasWheldon [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Circuit Paul Ricard
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Last year's race
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A messy start by Vettel and Bottas clears the way for an easy Hamilton victory

Season standings
after 7 races
Code:
POS   DRIVER   NATIONALITY   CAR   PTS
1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   MERCEDES   162
2   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   MERCEDES   133
3   Sebastian Vettel   GER   FERRARI   100
4   Max Verstappen   NED   RED BULL RACING HONDA   88
5   Charles Leclerc   MON   FERRARI   72
6   Pierre Gasly   FRA   RED BULL RACING HONDA   36
7   Carlos Sainz   ESP   MCLAREN RENAULT   18
8   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   RENAULT   16
9   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   HAAS FERRARI   14
10   Sergio Perez   MEX   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   13
11   Kimi Räikkönen   FIN   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   13
12   Lando Norris   GBR   MCLAREN RENAULT   12
13   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   RENAULT   12
14   Daniil Kvyat   RUS   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   10
15   Alexander Albon   THA   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   7
16   Lance Stroll   CAN   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   6
17   Romain Grosjean   FRA   HAAS FERRARI   2
18   Antonio Giovinazzi   ITA   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   0
19   George Russell   GBR   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   0
20   Robert Kubica   POL   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   0

POS   TEAM   PTS
1   MERCEDES   295
2   FERRARI   172
3   RED BULL RACING HONDA   124
4   MCLAREN RENAULT   30
5   RENAULT   28
6   RACING POINT BWT MERCEDES   19
7   SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO HONDA   17
8   HAAS FERRARI   16
9   ALFA ROMEO RACING FERRARI   13
10   WILLIAMS MERCEDES   0


Full timetable
all times are local (GMT+2)
Code:
FRIDAY 21st JUNE        
FIA Formula 3   Practice Session   09:25 - 10:10
Formula 1   First Practice Session   11:00 - 12:30
FIA Formula 2   Practice Session   12:55 - 13:40
Formula 1   Press Conference   13:00 - 14:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Truck Tour   13:45 - 14:15
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   13:45 - 14:30
Formula 1    Second Practice Session   15:00 - 16:30
FIA Formula 2   Qualifying Session   16:55 - 17:25
FIA Formula 3   Qualifying Session   17:50 - 18:20
Renault Clio Cup   Practice Session   18:45 - 19:15
FIA Formula 2   Press Conference   19:00 - 19:30
Promoter Activity   VIP Laps (High Speed)   19:20 - 19:50
FIA Formula 3   Press Conference   19:30 - 20:00
Paddock Club   Paddock Club   20:00 - 20:30
         
SATURDAY 22nd JUNE        
Renault Clio Cup   Qualifying Session   09:20 - 09:50
FIA Formula 3   First Race (20 Laps or 40 Mins)   10:30 - 11:15
FIA Formula 3   Press Conference   11:35 - 12:05
Formula 1   Third Practice Session   12:00 - 13:00
Renault Clio Cup   First Race (25 Mins +1 Lap)   13:25 - 13:55
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Truck Tour   14:00 - 14:30
FIA Formula 2   Drivers' Parade   14:00 - 14:30
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   14:00 - 14:45
Formula 1   Qualifying Session   15:00 - 16:00
Formula 1   Press Conference   16:00 - 17:00
FIA Formula 2   First Race (30 Laps or 60 Mins)   16:45 - 17:50
Promoter Activity   VIP Laps (High Speed)   18:00 - 18:20
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Truck Tour   18:30 - 19:00
FIA Formula 2   Press Conference   18:10 - 18:40
Promoter Activity   Sisley Parade Lap   19:10 - 19:20
Promoter Activity   Renault Parade Lap   19:30 - 19:45
         
SUNDAY 23rd JUNE
     
Renault Clio Cup   Second Race (25 Mins +1 Lap)   08:40 - 09:10
FIA Formula 3   Second Race (20 Laps or 40 Mins)   09:55 - 10:40
FIA Formula 2   Second Race (21 Laps or 45 Mins)   11:25 - 12:15
Promoter Activity   VIP Laps (High Speed)   12:30 - 12:50
Promoter Activity   Renault Parade Lap   13:00 - 13:10
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Pit Lane Walk   12:30 - 14:00
FIA Formula 2   Press Conference   12:35 - 12:55
Paddock Club   Paddock Club Truck Tour   13:25 - 13:55
Formula 1   Drivers' Track Parade   13:30 - 14:00
Promoter Activity   Starting Grid Presentation   14:00 - 14:15
Formula 1   National Anthem   14:54 - 14:56
Formula 1   Grand Prix (53 Laps or 120 Mins)   15:10 - 17:10


back to Le Castellet, the eyesore where nothing happens
Author:  EAS [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Love and Hate this track.

Hate it because I don't find it likely to provide good racing and also because it favors migraine.

But at the same time, I love this migrainism as it makes the track distinct. A feature that is lacking in many tracks of the calendar right now.
Author:  Coldtyre [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
I mean, a bowl of shit on my lunch table certainly is a distinct feature from the usual plate you find on there. Does not make it welcome or desirable.
Author:  Dan Belcher [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
This might be the worst racetrack in the history of the universe. I haven't seen any racetracks in other galaxies, but I'm pretty confident they're better than this festering pile of donkey shit.
Author:  Gaara [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Just dig up that awful tarmac and its migraine inducing lines and bring back the grass and gravel. Has these lines ever actually slowed a car as claimed?
Author:  Vassago [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Did I mention I hate astroturf? Paul Ricard is an astroturf hell :yuk:

But yeah, I'll watch the race, like I always do. Then I'll hear more moaning about F1 from people who didn't watch the race :lol:
Author:  Coldtyre [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
I'm not even sure the paint does something, does it? Isn't it only (an)aesthetic, to indicative of the areas where there is abrasive tarmac (red) vs regular run-off (blue)? And, as a welcome side effect, increase revenue for the nearest neurobiology clinic.

The layout also sucks massive balls, if only because a track without limits is just so meaningless. For God's sake, a tyre blowout at the fastest corner of your racetrack should at least make people skip a heart. Instead, Stroll's 2018 incident looked like someone missing the apex of a slow hairpin during an installation lap.
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 4:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
that track would only work out if cars had random punctures at Signes
Author:  Gabriel [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
How long is the maximun straightaway length homologated by the FIA?

I hate that chicane in the middle of the back straight...
Author:  LucasWheldon [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
the max straight lenght for homologation is 2km, Mistral is 1,9km but they put the chicane there to "close up the cars and create overtaking spots"

but I think the max speed is reached before the turns so it would be just like Hockenheim or Monza
Author:  EAS [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Coldtyre wrote:
I mean, a bowl of shit on my lunch table certainly is a distinct feature from the usual plate you find on there. Does not make it welcome or desirable.


You are talking to someone who ate rotten shark in Iceland. So... maybe. :p

Gaara wrote:
Just dig up that awful tarmac and its migraine inducing lines and bring back the grass and gravel. Has these lines ever actually slowed a car as claimed?


As far as I'm concerned, the claim isn't about slowing a car, but increasing the tyre wear.
Author:  Schumifan [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Gabriel wrote:
How long is the maximun straightaway length homologated by the FIA?

I hate that chicane in the middle of the back straight...


Other series (eg. ELMS) run the full back straight without chicane. So the FIA are happy to allow it

Unrelated, someone on reddit replaced the tarmac fuckfest with REAL RACEIN grass and gravel: https://imgur.com/a/8cRj6CD

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Author:  iks [ Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
I actually like this track (minus the seizure-inducing tarmac runoffs).

Go get 'em Lewis!!! :roll:
Author:  Beezle [ Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Bin the chicane to give that shithole at least one interesting thing!
Author:  gkmotorsport [ Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Did this track ever have real grass and gravel though? I thought it was originally just dirt and catch fences of varying lethality.
Author:  aerogi [ Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
They predict nice weather for this weekend so I will skip this one and do some gardening / reading comics in our garden.
Author:  Beezle [ Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
aerogi wrote:
They predict nice weather for this weekend so I will skip this one and do some gardening / reading comics in our garden.


Nürburgring 24h is on.
Author:  Coldtyre [ Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Schumifan wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
How long is the maximun straightaway length homologated by the FIA?

I hate that chicane in the middle of the back straight...


Other series (eg. ELMS) run the full back straight without chicane. So the FIA are happy to allow it

I believe that the FIA doesn't like that sort of combo for F1 cars, a 340-350 straight flowing directly into a demanding 300-ish corner that requires some braking and significantly loads the car laterally. It's sketchy enough for one car, when you add the slipstream potentially getting a group of cars together there battling for position in the race, it becomes nightmare fuel.

That is not my opinion, I'm only putting myself in their shoes. Real race drivers (i.e. not oversheltered diva teens) have been doing exactly the above on wall-bound superspeedways for several decades.
Author:  Beezle [ Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Coldtyre wrote:
Schumifan wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
How long is the maximun straightaway length homologated by the FIA?

I hate that chicane in the middle of the back straight...


Other series (eg. ELMS) run the full back straight without chicane. So the FIA are happy to allow it

I believe that the FIA doesn't like that sort of combo for F1 cars, a 340-350 straight flowing directly into a demanding 300-ish corner that requires some braking and significantly loads the car laterally. It's sketchy enough for one car, when you add the slipstream potentially getting a group of cars together there battling for position in the race, it becomes nightmare fuel.

That is not my opinion, I'm only putting myself in their shoes. Real race drivers (i.e. not oversheltered diva teens) have been doing exactly the above on wall-bound superspeedways for several decades.


Happens 800 times at Indy every year.
Author:  amq55 [ Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Grand Prix de France 2019
Schumifan wrote:
Gabriel wrote:
How long is the maximun straightaway length homologated by the FIA?

I hate that chicane in the middle of the back straight...


Other series (eg. ELMS) run the full back straight without chicane. So the FIA are happy to allow it

Unrelated, someone on reddit replaced the tarmac fuckfest with REAL RACEIN grass and gravel: https://imgur.com/a/8cRj6CD

Image

That reminds me a lot of Indianapolis.
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