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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 8:31 am 
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Mann wtf is with Ferrari, if all the other cars put the dry tyre and they inter. So its clear who is wrong.
They tried to do a Winkelhock Europe GP 2007, but it went backwards, and when the rain came all others were done with their laps. While Ferrari still trying to do a lap. Its like amateurs at their first ever qualifying.


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Mann wtf is with Ferrari, if all the other cars put the dry tyre and they inter. So its clear who is wrong.
They tried to do a Winkelhock Europe GP 2007, but it went backwards, and when the rain came all others were done with their laps. While Ferrari still trying to do a lap. Its like amateurs at their first ever qualifying.


Perez was also on inters, but even Force India knew they should put at least the other driver on different strategy. Didn't cost them that much on position-wise though.

Vettel couldn't keep his calm in a tight place with his only good attempt and made a mistake. Kimi did far better job by keeping it on the track and making the best he could at that point. That's why Kimi is 4th and Sebastian 9th. Räikkönen had been on that position anyway, but now Ferrari and Vettel took the biggest hit for bad moves as they just can't make the best out of any given tough situations.

I expect to see a crash on lap one with Vettel involved in it.

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This championship "battle" has turned into a joke.


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Vettel couldn't keep his calm in a tight place with his only good attempt and made a mistake. Kimi did far better job by keeping it on the track and making the best he could at that point. That's why Kimi is 4th and Sebastian 9th. Räikkönen had been on that position anyway, but now Ferrari and Vettel took the biggest hit for bad moves as they just can't make the best out of any given tough situations.

I expect to see a crash on lap one with Vettel involved in it.


I'm really disappointed with Vettel now. This was really his last chance to do something about the Championship and he's thrown it away. Not to take any blame away from Ferrari who also got the tyre choice wrong but Vettel could have at least been 3rd/4th had he kept it together.

Now I know anything can happen in the race but I don't expect anything spectacular.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:17 am 
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Vettel buckles under pressure? So, what else is new? :lol:

It's Alonso's Ferrari tale Vol.2. I don't see how he can win WDC with all these blunders they make. New rules are the only hope for a fresh start.

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Ferrari needs to drop inifinite money on Hamilton to get him to drive red and defeat the evil

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Ferrari needs to drop inifinite money on Hamilton to get him to drive red and defeat the evil

Or offer the seat to Alonso for nothing and almost get the same result.


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Driver talent level is meaningless if the team keeps fucking up


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So about time for Mercedes to hire Alonso and get his share of luck

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Driver talent level is meaningless if the team keeps fucking up
That's the absolute truth and it's been so painful to watch.

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Ferrari is already fucking up their strategy by not having Ricciardo and Alonso for next year when they could.


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I think Vettel has already mentally checked out of the WDC this year. He could have justifiably thrown his toys out of the pram a couple of times in the last few races, but refuses to point fingers. That's quite unlike him.


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SB83 wrote:
LucasWheldon wrote:
Ferrari needs to drop inifinite money on Hamilton to get him to drive red and defeat the evil

Or offer the seat to Alonso for nothing and almost get the same result.


Vettel to McIndy and Alonso to Ferrari confirmed :8:


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I think Vettel has already mentally checked out of the WDC this year. He could have justifiably thrown his toys out of the pram a couple of times in the last few races, but refuses to point fingers. That's quite unlike him.


Well, since Monza :whistling:

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kals wrote:
gkmotorsport wrote:
I think Vettel has already mentally checked out of the WDC this year. He could have justifiably thrown his toys out of the pram a couple of times in the last few races, but refuses to point fingers. That's quite unlike him.


Well, since Monza :whistling:


I think after his error at Hockenheim is when it happened. Sure he won at Spa but he hasn't been the same since Hockenheim.


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iks wrote:
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I think Vettel has already mentally checked out of the WDC this year. He could have justifiably thrown his toys out of the pram a couple of times in the last few races, but refuses to point fingers. That's quite unlike him.


Well, since Monza :whistling:


I think after his error at Hockenheim is when it happened. Sure he won at Spa but he hasn't been the same since Hockenheim.


I was referring to Vettel blaming others and pointing fingers, which he last did at Monza after qualifying and the race.

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Makes you wonder who is the real problem, we all assumed Alonso was the problem there, but now Vettel is experiencing the same level of incompetence, and Kimi has experienced it himself more than one, what is it they say about twice is a coincidence, three times a pattern? Syrely not all these drivers have the same faults/attitude that leads to these problems?


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Ian-S wrote:
Makes you wonder who is the real problem, we all assumed Alonso was the problem there, but now Vettel is experiencing the same level of incompetence, and Kimi has experienced it himself more than one, what is it they say about twice is a coincidence, three times a pattern? Syrely not all these drivers have the same faults/attitude that leads to these problems?


I could understand people who blame Alonso for the problems he had there, but I think the three of them are so different that it's harder to blame the drivers now. I think they just haven't coped with losing the original 00s core of the team.


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Yeah that's what i meant, there's too many cooks in the kitchen and egos are getting in the way of things.


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There is certainly something wrong with their strategists that's for sure. I mean come on, they know their car needs to keep up speed on their out laps in quali whereas Mercedes can go slow and keep the performance in their tyres but so bloody often they'll send their cars out BEHIND Mercedes. Even Mercedes is aware of that issue so why do Ferrari keep doing it.


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