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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:37 am 
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• Vettel's pole was his 25th in Formula 1 from just 75 starts - making it one every three races. His victory was the 18th of his grand prix career, putting him equal 13th in the all-time list with Kimi Raikkonen. His 31st career podium equalled Jack Brabham in 28th spot.

• Red Bull's Monza victory was its 23rd in F1, equalling Tyrrell at eighth spot in the all-time list, while the Italian GP also marked the 40th grand prix at which one of its cars finished on the podium.

• Ferrari claimed its 650th world championship podium finish at Monza, courtesy of Fernando Alonso, who took his own 70th.

Five different manufacturers have won at Monza in the last five years, starting with McLaren in 2007 and continuing with Toro Rosso, Brawn, Ferrari and Red Bull.

• Mark Webber's retirement in Italy ended Red Bull's run as the only manufacturer to have completed every lap of the season with both cars. It was the first time in 14 races - a run that began in Brazil last year - that the team did not score double points.

• Webber's retirement in Italy was only his third in the last two years of grand prix racing (the others coming at Valencia and Yeongam last year). All three were as a result of accidents, while his last mechanical failure came in Singapore exactly two years ago (brake failure). Prior to Italy, Webber had finished between second and fifth at every race.

• Jenson Button has finished second for the past three years at Monza. Only two other drivers have taken the runner-up spot in Italy as many times without winning. They are Richie Ginther in 1960, '62 and '63 and Alesi in 1993, '96 and '97.

• Michael Schumacher's fifth place for Mercedes equalled what he managed on his first grand prix appearance at Monza in 1991 for Benetton.

• At the same track where he started last two years ago, Jaime Alguersuari took the best result of his F1 career with seventh at Monza. It was the first time in Toro Rosso history that both cars scored points in the team's home race. For the seventh race in a row, a driver - in this case Alguersuari - scored despite being knocked out in Q1.

• Bruno Senna claimed his maiden F1 points finish in ninth spot for Renault.

• Monza provided Sauber with its first double retirement since last year's Canadian Grand Prix.

• After 10 straight finishes, Virgin's Jerome D'Ambrosio failed to make the chequered flag in Italy.

• For the first time since the 2006 Brazilian Grand Prix, Nico Rosberg retired on the opening lap of an F1 race.

• For the 55th race in succession, a Renault-engined car scored points, equalling Ferrari's Malaysia 1999-Malaysia 2003 run. The extension of the points-paying positions down to 10th however, makes this run less impressive, and the manufacturer itself only counts the result as its 35th in succession. Ford holds the record with an astonishing 228 races - all when points were only awarded to the top six finishers.

• Oddly for Monza, straight-line speed was not important this year. Winner Vettel was at the bottom of the speed trap figures in every session, with only first-lap retirees slower in the race. As an example, Senna's Renault was 12.7mph faster during the race with the same engine.

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• Vettel's pole was his 10th of the season, equalling the number he managed last year. Only six times in F1 history has a driver started from pole on more occasions during a season, the record being Nigel Mansell's 14 in 1992.

• Lewis Hamilton started from the rear of the front row for the fourth straight race.

• Sauber's 15th and 17th places on the grid represented its worst in the Italian Grand Prix in the team's history. It had been 15th and 16th in 2000.

• For the first time Daniel Ricciardo outqualified his team-mate Vitantonio Liuzzi. It was the first time since the 2006 French Grand Prix that Liuzzi had started last.

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8. I'm probably in a minority here, but I preferred it to the Belgian GP.

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phil1993 wrote:
• Oddly for Monza, straight-line speed was not important this year. Winner Vettel was at the bottom of the speed trap figures in every session, with only first-lap retirees slower in the race. As an example, Senna's Renault was 12.7mph faster during the race with the same engine.


Was the speed trap in the start line DRS zone? Vettel is probably the only driver to not use the DRS for the whole race.


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Apart from when he was lapping cars


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Vettel.

Jaime drove a great race but come on... He gained at least SEVEN of his positions by cutting the first chicane to avoid the carnage. :p He was already well up the road from Buemi after that.


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drunkenmonkey wrote:
Michael Schumacher was the driver of the race again! It was awesome to watch


Yeah live in Monza :8:


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Sorry but i have to give it 10/10. I know that later in the race wasnt much action, but i was there so you have to understand why. Schumi vs Hamilton were side by side every lap and it was epic, saw Webbers exit of the race too in a big smoke


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7. Early part really good but after Schuey/Hamilton battle ended it wasn't so good.


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Earlier votings of the season (I missed Turkey ratings so it's not here)

Canada 9,273/139 votes
China 9,087/149
Monaco 8,495/111
Hungary 8,000/90
Germany 7,889/99
Malaysia 7,798/104
Britain 7,624/93
Belgium 7,606/99
Spain 5,864/88
Australia 5,812/133
Europe 3,144/111


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I gave it a 7

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Vettel. Simply unbeatable.


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Vettel may be for the pass on Alonso. But the rest was the usual. While Schumacher did something we we're all waiting for 2 years to happen, not for a pass but for a whole run. Finally. Driver, moves and moment of the race and one of those to be remembered for years to come.


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Definitely Schu :D The car was good. It allowed him to really be a contender rather than just a quick pass. The best was when Hamilton passed him the first time and then wasn't expecting Schu to come back and pass him again :p


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I really enjoyed this race so an 8 from me.


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Schumacher spent the whole race being in the way of people. Okay.


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I cannot see what was so great about Schumacher's drive. He was incredibly defensive in front of Hamilton, which was extremely OTT and then faded back. He didn't fight at the front and was a roadblock most of the time. What is so great about that?


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kals wrote:
I cannot see what was so great about Schumacher's drive. He was incredibly defensive in front of Hamilton, which was extremely OTT and then faded back. He didn't fight at the front and was a roadblock most of the time. What is so great about that?

agreed, on the straights his car was faster and in the breaking zones he was weaving. I really can't vote for him after this race.


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Soul Reaver wrote:
Vettel may be for the pass on Alonso. But the rest was the usual. While Schumacher did something we we're all waiting for 2 years to happen, not for a pass but for a whole run. Finally. Driver, moves and moment of the race and one of those to be remembered for years to come.


This. Schumacher gets my vote as well.


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Schumacher finished exactly where you'd expect him to. He beat a bunch of midfielders, and Massa who had been driven into. It's a shame Rosberg was taken out because there was no one to compare Michael to.

I suppose after 18 months of being absolutely destroyed by Rosberg, the fan boys are happy to see him finish ahead once in a while, in a car that was completely designed around him.

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Well the fanboys are really clutching at straws when a mediocre result preceeded by desperate defensive moves condemned by experts is described at memorable


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