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| Author: | webbsy [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 2:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
Haha....."George, this is Toto.......If you want any shot at the drive next year repeat after me....Bottas did nothing wrong, Bottas did nothing wrong" |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
For anyone still wondering(!), the reason Hamilton was not even investigated for reversing is simply that no rule forbids reversing outside the pit lane, as long as it is done safely. In this case, Michael Masi was listening to the radio communication between the team and Lewis, and was satisfied that they were feeding him enough information about oncoming traffic. Seems like a reasonable explanation. |
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| Author: | JJ [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
Of course they can reverse. Latifi reversed when he crashed in FP3, Alonso when went off on way to the grid. There's nothing else to do but reverse if you go wide at Monaco, unless you have enough room to do 180°. |
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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
Actually it forbids reversing on the pit straight, which means starting grid. This rule was used to disqualify Nigel Mansell on Estoril. I remember that some racing series penalize for reversing, but I'm not sure if it's WEC, DTM, IndyCar or Nascar. Or some lower class racing. |
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| Author: | maclauren [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
You're making things up. Mansell reversed in the pitlane (which is of course forbidden), not on the pit straight. |
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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
maclauren wrote: You're making things up. Mansell reversed in the pitlane (which is of course forbidden), not on the pit straight. Ah yes, now I remember the incident. One of Finnish sports media said it was pitstraight and Mansell reversed to his grid. So probably a straight translation with wrong terms. Should have been pitlane and pitbox. |
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| Author: | De Cesaris fan [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
I don't disagree with everything Davidson says in his analysis, but he is missing one point. He says that Bottas was taking a natural line, which is fair enough when you are running by yourself. But if he was using his mirrors, he surely would have seen Russell coming with a massive run and picked a side early to avoid any confusion (the wet/dry lines obviously add a bit more difficulty to this, but plenty of other drivers managed it). Also, screw Toto and his comments about wasting time trying to overtake a Mercedes. When you've spent years driving the slowest car on the grid and you have a chance to make a move on a front running car, surely any racer would go for it? Who cares if Bottas will take the place back later? If George is faster, why waste time behind another car? That could compromise his own race if it allows others to catch him. |
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| Author: | LucasWheldon [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
Toto is showing the worse of two evils. Presenting Mercedes as the Ferrari that works treating the other drivers like disposable material, itching himself to demote/fire/etc but not being able to because there's not much resources left to fill the gaps |
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| Author: | Stoegi [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
Ah some good old TBK arguementz hehe. Thread over 30 pages. Oldschool. |
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| Author: | stimaro [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:20 pm ] |
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| Author: | EAS [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
What an embarrassing statement from Russell now. It looks like Toto wrote it himself. |
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| Author: | Karan [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
webbsy wrote: Haha....."George, this is Toto.......If you want any shot at the drive next year repeat after me....Bottas did nothing wrong, Bottas did nothing wrong" Pretty sure George sent a draft of his latest Twitter apology to Daddy Toto to sign off on before he posted it. 
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| Author: | JJ [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
Stoegi wrote: Ah some good old TBK arguementz hehe. Thread over 30 pages. Oldschool. I think the last time that has happened was Brazilian GP 2016. 
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| Author: | NVirkkula [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
EAS wrote: What an embarrassing statement from Russell now. It looks like Toto wrote it himself. Well, Russell was criticized quite a bit during the last 24 hours. He might have caused big issues for Mercedes to develop new components as they have to rebuilt Bottas' car and the budget gap is going to restrict them. |
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| Author: | Karan [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
De Cesaris fan wrote: I don't disagree with everything Davidson says in his analysis, but he is missing one point. He says that Bottas was taking a natural line, which is fair enough when you are running by yourself. But if he was using his mirrors, he surely would have seen Russell coming with a massive run and picked a side early to avoid any confusion (the wet/dry lines obviously add a bit more difficulty to this, but plenty of other drivers managed it). Also, screw Toto and his comments about wasting time trying to overtake a Mercedes. When you've spent years driving the slowest car on the grid and you have a chance to make a move on a front running car, surely any racer would go for it? Who cares if Bottas will take the place back later? If George is faster, why waste time behind another car? That could compromise his own race if it allows others to catch him. Isn't Davidson still on the Mercedes payroll as a simulator driver or something? Either way he's a massive Mercedes homer. I used to like his analysis but now he has zero credibility in my eyes. I mean his first comment after the race was "Well at least Hamilton finished where he should've if everything went fairly..." Yeah okay buddy.
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| Author: | Karan [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
Stoegi wrote: Ah some good old TBK arguementz hehe. Thread over 30 pages. Oldschool. Nostalgic for sure. But I think a good chunk of the early pages were spent debating the beautiful scenery of Imola versus exciting races in IKEA parking lots.
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| Author: | Gaara [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
Davidson shouldn't criticise anyone's overtaking... |
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| Author: | Vassago [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
EAS wrote: What an embarrassing statement from Russell now. It looks like Toto wrote it himself. I giggled when I saw the news about Russell having to apologize. Shows you Mercedes doesn't need a driver who "still has a lot to learn" like Wolff described him. And he's right. That Bahrain one-off means nothing and Mercedes might still pick someone else to replace Bottas. And I'd be fine with it. |
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| Author: | gkmotorsport [ Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
NVirkkula wrote: EAS wrote: What an embarrassing statement from Russell now. It looks like Toto wrote it himself. Well, Russell was criticized quite a bit during the last 24 hours. He might have caused big issues for Mercedes to develop new components as they have to rebuilt Bottas' car and the budget gap is going to restrict them. Honestly, this was the most pathetic part of Toto's complaining. Boo hoo, now that Mercedes have been reined in they suddenly have to face a bit of reality at the same time as not having a massive pace advantage. I don't believe for a second that the best team for the last however many years didn't think to make an allowance in their budget for a wrecked car. If they genuinely didn't, then that's embarrassing for them. |
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| Author: | sennadesillva [ Tue Apr 20, 2021 12:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Formula 1 Pirelli Gran Premio Del Made In Italy E Dell'emilia Romagna 2021 |
*Massive crash happens* *radio to Kimi* "Yellow where you are, watch for debris" *Kimi* "Ya, I got sprayed with all kinds of fucking shit" |
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