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Author:  Tobias [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:45 pm ]
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Sutil and Kolles, sounds like a criminal combination.

Author:  amq55 [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:56 pm ]
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Tobias wrote:
Quote:
Algarve track joins the running for 2013 calendar slot

Portugal’s Algarve International Circuit has been suggested as a possible venue for the tenth round of the 2013 F1 calendar.

With less than 50 days to go until the first practice session of the season in Australia a vacant slot remains in this year’s schedule.

Bernie Ecclestone told Austria’s Salzburger Nachrichten the Portuguese circuit could hold the race on July 21st. He added France is also still being considered for a return to the Grand Prix calendar.

If a race were held in Portugal on July 21st the teams would face a logistical challenge to arrive in Hungary in time for the next round on the 28th.

The Algarve International Circuit was built in 2008 at a cost of around £200m using private money. Construction took just ten months. Its F1 configuration measures 4.692km (2.92 miles).

When it was built the owners hoped it would become a popular testing destination for F1 teams. But the introduction of the testing ban scuppered those hopes and the track only saw F1 cars in action during the 2008/09 off-season.

However its undulating layout means it stands out among other recent new-build circuits and has been praised by many of the drivers who have visited it. The track held the GP2 season finale in 2009 and last year played host to the FIA’s World Touring Car Championship and GT1 World Championship (see video below).

The Portuguese Grand Prix last appeared on the F1 calendar in 1996. The race at Estoril was won by Jacques Villeneuve for Williams.

Portugal hasn’t had an F1 driver on the grid since Tiago Monteiro in 2006. Since then Alvaro Parente and Filipe Albuquerque have come close to reaching F1 but fallen short. However Antonio Felix da Costa is a rising star on Red Bull’s young driver programme and may well be Portugal’s next F1 driver.

source: f1fanatic.co.uk

Unless it's a 100% privately funded effort, we can't afford it. And if we do waste taxpayer money on it, it'd be a moronic move.

Author:  krag [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:38 pm ]
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It's a bit of an "off-topic" but I was wondering what become those former F1 drivers (just a bit of curiosity) :
- Christian Klien
- Robert Doornbos
- Michael Ammermuler (friday driver, I heard he runs in Porsche Supercup)
- Christijan Albers
- Patrick Friesacher

Thanks :)

Author:  Fish88 [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:50 pm ]
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krag wrote:
It's a bit of an "off-topic" but I was wondering what become those former F1 drivers (just a bit of curiosity) :

- Robert Doornbos: Can't race at the moment because of some legal issues. The guy who sponsored him (Meurmans) said the money he gave to him as sponsorship was a loan, so now he and Muermans are in court fighting that out. If he loses he has to pay back about 10 millions Euro's and maybe more.

http://www.quotenet.nl/Nieuws/Harry-Mue ... nbos-49995 (Dutch article, translate in google).

- Christijan Albers: Don't know what Albers is doing exactly. But I know his business isn't running bad considering the cars he owns (Carrera GT, 599 GTO and some more).
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Author:  krag [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:02 pm ]
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Fish88 wrote:
krag wrote:
It's a bit of an "off-topic" but I was wondering what become those former F1 drivers (just a bit of curiosity) :

- Robert Doornbos: Can't race at the moment because of some legal issues. The guy who sponsored him (Meurmans) said the money he gave to him as sponsorship was a loan, so now he and Muermans are in court fighting that out. If he loses he has to pay back about 10 millions Euro's and maybe more.

http://www.quotenet.nl/Nieuws/Harry-Mue ... nbos-49995 (Dutch article, translate in google).

- Christijan Albers: Don't know what Albers is doing exactly. But I know his business isn't running bad considering the cars he owns (Carrera GT, 599 GTO and some more).
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Thanks !

Author:  Coldtyre [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:20 pm ]
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Ferrari wrote:
Tobias wrote:
With the introduction of the turbos, will there be further need for the airbox?


Like IndyCar, predicting it'll be kept for the reason of safety.

The intake/engine cover is just a sheet of plastic/metal AFAIK, all the structural resistance comes from the actual hoop behind the driver, so both designs are as crash-worthy one another. Unless I'm missing something!

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Tobias wrote:
I quite vividly remember this air intake

http://media.emercedesbenz.com/magazine/wp-content/uploads/MERCEDES-GP-PETRONAS-791253_1450812_3780_2578_F1GPBelgium2010_3081-635x432.jpgthe rules obviously allow some 'playing room' there. It'll be interesting to see the various designs (if there are any).

Was the lateral resistance against shearing forces on that roll hoop ever questioned? (like car sliding laterally, upside down) It seems less than the usual triangular design!
I remember reading a long time ago that they only test them against vertical loads though.

Author:  Neil [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:32 pm ]
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It's carbon fibre. The only reason they have the air box there now is to take air in to the engine. Most likely that they'll go for just a roll hoop for performance reasons - it will create a lot less drag!

Author:  stimaro [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:44 pm ]
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krag wrote:
It's a bit of an "off-topic" but I was wondering what become those former F1 drivers (just a bit of curiosity) :
- Christian Klien

Wikipedia says he drove in 3 V8 Supercar races in 2012 and that since late 2012 he writes a monthly column for the Pitpass.com website.

Author:  micha [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:25 pm ]
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nea wrote:
It's carbon fibre. The only reason they have the air box there now is to take air in to the engine. Most likely that they'll go for just a roll hoop for performance reasons - it will create a lot less drag!



wait, are you suggesting the rollhoop will go?? Surely they're not getting rid of so much sponsor-space.

Author:  Fabs [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:01 pm ]
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:lol:

Author:  phil1993 [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:58 pm ]
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An interesting article by Dieter Rencken in Autosport says that some teams have yet to pay entry fees, because as far as they're concerned, entry fees are part of the Concorde Agreement - which has yet to, and might not, be signed.

Author:  kals [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:57 pm ]
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I'm wondering how close to the start of the season the official calendar will be released.

Author:  djomp [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:04 pm ]
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micha wrote:
nea wrote:
It's carbon fibre. The only reason they have the air box there now is to take air in to the engine. Most likely that they'll go for just a roll hoop for performance reasons - it will create a lot less drag!



wait, are you suggesting the rollhoop will go?? Surely they're not getting rid of so much sponsor-space.


There's probably just be a small equivalent of the shark fin...

Author:  Антон [ Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:37 pm ]
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Claustrophobic wrote:
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AGS JH22 (Ford Cosworth DFZ 3.5 V8)

Spoiler:
I very Love my very old wallet (near 10 years old)
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Author:  iks [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:13 am ]
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Tobias wrote:
Quote:
Russian Grand Prix gets November date for 2014

The inaugural Russian Grand Prix will get a November slot on the 2014 F1 calendar, according to the mayor of Sochi.

Sochi mayor Anatoly Pakhomov told R-Sport (part of state-owned media agency Ria Novosti) “after the Olympics, in November, the Formula One will be held.” Sochi will hold the 2014 Wintor Olympics in February.

The F1 teams can expect cool conditions for Russia’s first Grand Prix – the average temperature in Sochi in November is 10.9C.


I guess that's why the race is at Sochi and not Moscow, lol.

Early November is usually pretty good over there, low 20°Cs.


Well it looks like the Sochi race has a good chance at also being a wet one too as November is the wettest month on average there (198 mm/7.8"). :D

Author:  phil1993 [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:23 pm ]
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kals wrote:
I'm wondering how close to the start of the season the official calendar will be released.


Might not be until after the season has started. They're all "provisionally confirmed" - which does sound like a juxtaposition I know, except for Germany.

Author:  cambridge [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:53 pm ]
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Gabriel wrote:
Scotty wrote:
NVirkkula you're correct, from what I've been reading it will be 750-800hp before any additional power sources.

The current engines are giving 760 to 780, but they were around 830 at stages before they introduced rev limit regulations.


I read on RACER mag that the engines will produce around 550 hp. It was the printed edition, the "Power issue".


550? it's very low value. That's the one a good GT1 car used to provide. I Hope for at least 100-150 more. :yuk: :yuk:

Author:  Fish88 [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:46 pm ]
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There will come a time that LMP1's will be faster than F1 if they continue like this.

Author:  Gaara [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:48 pm ]
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Nope, they'll end up with smaller less powerful engines too.

Author:  Cheeveer [ Sat Jan 26, 2013 3:48 pm ]
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Fish88 wrote:
There will come a time that LMP1's will be faster than F1 if they continue like this.


Nice. :)

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