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Mercedes an obvious choice. Koba for poor pace compared to Perez and Diresta for the same reason.

But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history. He's completely useless, a shitty paydriver and a jerk who doesn't respect the real drivers. He constantly screws people's races because of not even caring to look after his mirrors.

The lead battle could have last untill the flag if wasn't for him again

But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history.

Artur Craft wrote:

But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history.

Really? You think he's worse than the likes of Deletraz, Lavaggi, Adams, Inoue, Langes and Rosset? He's a Superleague and A1GP race winner and was pretty handy in F3 too unlike all of the above. He's pretty average but far from terrible.

And he did nothing wrong yesterday, he left room for Vettel as soon as he could.

I don't really get your point. Do you think that Hamilton wasn't quick enough to overtake him in the next laps? I guess so...
The thing with Karthikeyan was just unlucky, but it happens, not only to Vettel.

But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history. He's completely useless, a shitty paydriver and a jerk who doesn't respect the real drivers. He constantly screws people's races because of not even caring to look after his mirrors.

Artur Craft wrote:

Why do you not like real racing? Getting rid of the blue flag rule would be awesome.

I mean, really.

Author:	Regiotap [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:11 am ]
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Mercedes.

Author:	matthew [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:12 am ]
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The Farce was pre-race imo...

Author:	Artur Craft [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:23 am ]
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Mercedes an obvious choice. Koba for poor pace compared to Perez and Diresta for the same reason. But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history. He's completely useless, a shitty paydriver and a jerk who doesn't respect the real drivers. He constantly screws people's races because of not even caring to look after his mirrors. The lead battle could have last untill the flag if wasn't for him again

Author:	American Dragon [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:24 am ]
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Artur Craft wrote: Mercedes an obvious choice. Koba for poor pace compared to Perez and Diresta for the same reason. But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history. He's completely useless, a shitty paydriver and a jerk who doesn't respect the real drivers. He constantly screws people's races because of not even caring to look after his mirrors. The lead battle could have last untill the flag if wasn't for him again Now that you mention it, i forgot Karthikeyan, god damn it.

Author:	Artur Craft [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:46 am ]
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can't blame you at all. He's absolutelly useless that nobody really remembers about him

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Author:	hedgey666 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:11 am ]
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Artur Craft wrote: But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history. Really? You think he's worse than the likes of Deletraz, Lavaggi, Adams, Inoue, Langes and Rosset? He's a Superleague and A1GP race winner and was pretty handy in F3 too unlike all of the above. He's pretty average but far from terrible.

Author:	Omega [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:27 pm ]
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hedgey666 wrote: Artur Craft wrote: But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history. Really? You think he's worse than the likes of Deletraz, Lavaggi, Adams, Inoue, Langes and Rosset? He's a Superleague and A1GP race winner and was pretty handy in F3 too unlike all of the above. He's pretty average but far from terrible. And he did nothing wrong yesterday, he left room for Vettel as soon as he could.

Author:	Lucasjeha [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:58 am ]
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Alonso, for agreeing with the ridiculous gearbox change to give him a better grid spot. Ferrari at all is an epic farce, always was and will forever.

Author:	Artur Craft [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:47 am ]
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Omega wrote: And he did nothing wrong yesterday, he left room for Vettel as soon as he could. do you have a video showing he did everything he could? FOM never showed a replay of it during the worldfeed broadcast and from what I spotted from the live image, it seemed just another "fuck everybody else" attitude from that idiot. But I could change my opinion if a video shows he really did everything he could.

Author:	ellis [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:06 am ]
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From Hamiltons onboard it looked like Narian was arsing about in the middle of the track, before slamming on the brakes and basically stopping in the middle of the track. Now Vettel (or any car) cannot commit to passing a car like that because if he turns in they make contact they all blame the leader, not the backmarker. We can sit and say "Well leaders now days have it easy, in the old days they didn't have blue flags", and that's a valid point. But it isn't like that now, and everybody has to play by those rules. Narain is by no means the as bad as what some make it. He sure as hell isn't as bad as Inoue or whatever. But he didn't exactly make the leaders life easy that lap, and that's kinda against what the blue flag rule is about. The flip side is that sections like that are very very difficult to get out of the way as easy as the straights. But one thing is for sure, every driver in Vettels situation would've had a good moan about that.

Author:	acopip [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:03 am ]
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I don't really get your point. Do you think that Hamilton wasn't quick enough to overtake him in the next laps? I guess so... The thing with Karthikeyan was just unlucky, but it happens, not only to Vettel.

Author:	ellis [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:06 am ]
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acopip wrote: I don't really get your point. Do you think that Hamilton wasn't quick enough to overtake him in the next laps? I guess so... The thing with Karthikeyan was just unlucky, but it happens, not only to Vettel. No? I don't see where that's said. The point people are making is that pass only happened at that specific point because of the HRT. The DRS gifted him the pass, but that's a known quantity and he was only close enough for the gift because of that. I think without the HRT, Lewis would have a proper wheel to wheel with Vettel and we'd have a great battle. As it is, the HRT closed the gap which helped Lewis a lot. I think Lewis would've still won, but it'd be a 10/10 race if we actually had a lead battle, not just a draft pass. It isn't taking anything away from Lewis because he was man of the race. Him and Vettel were in a class of there own, yet again, but Lewis was fantastic. We just missed out on a proper wheel to wheel fight because of a team which isn't even sending the required amount of staff to the races right now. Yeah it's a bit of luck, but you still have to understand why some are annoyed, and why Vettel was annoyed.

Author:	webbsy [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:01 am ]
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Artur Craft wrote: Mercedes an obvious choice. Koba for poor pace compared to Perez and Diresta for the same reason. But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history. He's completely useless, a shitty paydriver and a jerk who doesn't respect the real drivers. He constantly screws people's races because of not even caring to look after his mirrors. The lead battle could have last untill the flag if wasn't for him again You would be having coniption fits if Vettel came up upon the following: Olivier Grouillard waiting for you, Rene Arnoux piss farting around, get passed him and then there would be the dreaded Andrea De Cesaris.....the horror! THESE are back markers. Ok Arnoux and De Cesaris had some semblance of a career, especially Arnoux, but they had the fuck you I'm racing you even though you are lapping me attitude. BTW for a good old trip down memory lane at some of the pathetic drivers in F1, see this amazing list from Wikipedia, the laughs..."oh I forgot how shit he was" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fo ... ne_drivers

Author:	Cheeveer [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:27 am ]
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Artur Craft wrote: But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history. He's completely useless, a shitty paydriver and a jerk who doesn't respect the real drivers. He constantly screws people's races because of not even caring to look after his mirrors. Why do you not like real racing? Getting rid of the blue flag rule would be awesome. I mean, really.

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Author:	Artur Craft [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:56 pm ]
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dicksplaash wrote: Artur Craft wrote: But I wished OP had allowed to vote for the absolute idiot that is Karthikeyan. I hate this driver the most in all F1 history. He's completely useless, a shitty paydriver and a jerk who doesn't respect the real drivers. He constantly screws people's races because of not even caring to look after his mirrors. Why do you not like real racing? Getting rid of the blue flag rule would be awesome. I mean, really. well, if you get rid of it, then ok, it's the same for everyone. NK could've held Vettel, then Lewis. I just hated, as ellis said, that he robbed us a longer battle. I loved the race, it's just that it could've been even more epic at the end. What I don't like about NK is that he doesn't respect the rules. You can question the blue flag rule, but as long as it is on, drivers have to respect it and doesn't interfeer in other people's race/battles.

Author:	kals [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:06 pm ]
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How the hell did NK rob us of a longer battle? From what I saw Hamilton and Vettel were tied at the hip before and after NK's interception. You know, years back getting around backmarkers was an art in F1. And sometimes getting caught up with one or a few would / could cost you positions and / or the race win. That's it. This attitude of "NK is a piece of shit" is unbelievably pathetic. It really is.

Author:	Jonny [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:18 pm ]
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I won't say the leaders have it too easy with blue flag rules but this is how bad it could get in the past - and this -