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Author:  alex1369 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:41 pm ]
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Ospi wrote:
Im pretty disappointed the Ferrari seems to be a flop. Was hoping for more than a two horse race this season.


Maybe Mercedes, Lotus GP will take Ferraris place..

Author:  phil1993 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:45 pm ]
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Van der Garde has spun into the gravel. He managed 70 laps though, which is decent without an error. Bianchi shunted on Lap 3.

Author:  bosanac1 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:12 pm ]
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Ospi wrote:
Im pretty disappointed the Ferrari seems to be a flop. Was hoping for more than a two horse race this season.


Seems something is not right with Ferrari, while everyone else is doing long runs, short runs etc Ferrari is still doing tons of flow vis and calibrations since day 1.

Obviously its testing but it has that McLaren feeling where they spent half of testing trying to find out why their data on computer didn't match track data.

Author:  Mercedes5CLR [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:04 pm ]
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Ferrari really needs to hire drivers that are able to develop and evolve cars. Massa has never shown to be great at telling engineers what the cars is doing. I think Alonso is pretty good but, he seems to be past his prime of developing wining cars.

Author:  RtN [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:11 pm ]
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They could dig up Senna and put him in the car, it wouldn't change a jot because the problem appears to be that the windtunnel data is not corroborating with what is going on on the track.

And if they've gone in this more radical direction on the basis of what is now dodgy windtunnel data...oops.

Author:  phil1993 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:43 pm ]
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Paddock believes that Ferrari is deep in shit.

Lotus is good, but a bit shaky in places. Williams looking better than in 2011.

Author:  kals [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:45 pm ]
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McLaren were in a mess this time last year, then when they turned up in Australia they were RBR's closest challenger.

Author:  phil1993 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:48 pm ]
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True, but that was solely down to the Octopus exhaust. They dumped it and were fine.

Ferrari seems to have a plethora of problems, if you believe the rumours. Not just the slowish times, but the body language and the wording of team interviews. Plus track side spectators have said that it looks nervy.

Author:  StefMeister [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:01 pm ]
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Ferrari admitting there not happy with the cars performance so far:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97453

Author:  phil1993 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:12 pm ]
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HRT has delayed the introduction of the HRT02 until the final pre-season test, beginning on March 1st. Oh dear...

Anyway, here's what Mar thought of today's action, including some interesting visitors in the media centre...
http://www.f1zone.net/news/jerez-day-3- ... ock/12181/

Author:  Gabriel [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:18 pm ]
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phil1993 wrote:
HRT has delayed the introduction of the HRT02 until the final pre-season test, beginning on March 1st. Oh dear...


I won't be surprised if it doesn't turn a wheel before the AUSGP. Why ruin the tradition set by the two previous cars.

Author:  Artur Craft [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:45 pm ]
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alex1369 wrote:
Maybe Mercedes, Lotus GP will take Ferraris place..

phil1993 wrote:
Lotus is good, but a bit shaky in places.


somebody at atlas, who attented to the track, posted this:
Quote:
- Renault:Clearly lacks grip in the back. I spotted some slides, blocks rear under braking, etc
- Sauber: Planted and fast. Looked pretty good in PerezĀ“s hands. Better than the renault IMO

Additionally, time-wise(not that it matter), Perez's best time was done with hard tire and on cold morning.

Author:  StefMeister [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:57 pm ]
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Brief report from SSN on today's test, Includes a nice super-slow-mo shot:

[dailymotion]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xohghq_f1-2012-testing-jerez-day-2-feb-8th_auto[/dailymotion]

Author:  amq55 [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:52 pm ]
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Bad news for HRT:

HRT wrote:
14 crash tests passed. Chasis approved but the 2 that failed (by minor margin) prevent us to have the car ready for BCN1 test

Author:  Xen [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:13 pm ]
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Did anybody noticed they've put gravel at the chicane ? Was it said already or did nobody see it ? :)

Author:  Magnifico [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:15 pm ]
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StefMeister wrote:
Ferrari admitting there not happy with the cars performance so far:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97453


If you read the actually quotes and not the Autosport typical sensationalising headline/first sentence they seem "ok". They're just trying a bucketload of different things at the moment

We go through this every winter. BMW in 08. Ferrari/Mclaren in 09. Mclaren in 2010. Mclaren/Mercedes in 2011. Ferrari again in 2012 it seems. The only one who truly had a dog was Mclaren, and that was obvious from the moment they kept the 08 wing bolted on the car for nearly two tests.

I hope they're fine because F1 needs a competitive Mclaren/Ferrari to challenge Vettel because we all know Webber isn't going to do shit. Another dominant RBR coupled with half the races on Sky I might not even bother for the majority of this season.

Author:  StefMeister [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:51 am ]
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Video from Sky at the test's about Caterham:

Author:  phil1993 [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:28 am ]
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So, this is Vettel's official 2012 helmet...

Image

Author:  mclaren2008 [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:30 am ]
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Until he wins a race

Author:  aerogi [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:13 am ]
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call me 'old' if you like, but I really, really, really miss the times that drivers had a distinctive helmet design, and stuck with it for their whole career. It was part of their personality, of their history in F1. Most of them also had a story behind as to why using a certain scheme (Hill being one of my favourites) or colour scheme.

Oh well, it's not the end of the world, but still, I think it sucks bigtime.

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