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But a jump start isn't dangerous, it just gives you an unfair advantage. Surely penalties are unnecessary if you're already out of the race?

I'm shocked with Williams awful strategy today. Knowing that Senna was making his best, being competitive on the top 6, they simply fucked with his tire strategy.....I hope they take that in consideration when it's time to renew the contract, Senna could have finished at least on a Top 6.

Senna had a slow puncture.

No action on Webber or Schumacher.

Fine for Caterham

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What happened BTW with Pastor's wing? Did he drive up against someone (I assume he did) or something else?

He managed to hit Glock on the restart

Glock.



The Williams drivers next year will be Maldonado and Bottas.

So unless they keep Bruno around to make the coffee...

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Oh ok thx. Guess that was expectable.

People don't hate Maldonado, people are fed up with his driving standards and the ignorant / arrogant defensive attitude he carries along with him. To say he does more harm to himself than others is utterly laughable as he compromises the races of others through the incidents he's involved in.

People like Grosjean and he's far from clumsy. People don't tend to look to far from the obvious, such as he wasn't at fault in Australia (racing incident, not Maldonado's fault either), nor he was he at fault in Monaco as Alonso moved over on him. Today was unfortunate and sometimes these things happen. When they do they need to be dealt with appropriately.

Complaining about Grosjean because Sauber's budget is pathetic, they were just a victim of circumstance and that is something they accept by being in the sport.

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PDVSA's contract with Williams stipulates that they must employ a South American driver, it doesn't dictate that driver must be Maldonado. One must wonder what conversations are going on at Williams about Maldonado's performance and future within the team.

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I thought it said it must be a Venezuelan driver...

I suppose they could get Johnny Cecotto Jr. or maybe even...Viso.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Yes it has to be a Venezuelan driver, so Maldonado is safe for next season. Quite a shame because I believe Senna is better for the team than he is.

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Sort Senna's quali out and he'll score more points.

I think Grosjean's penalty is fair, that was a terrible misjudgement by him. For a comparison, Kimi said that he saw in his mirrors the accident behind him so he tried to make the turn more quickly to get out of the way. Grosjean never looked in his mirrors and obviously didn't even think that Hamilton would be there. So in his mind he probably never pictured a McLaren there that he was just passing. That's a terrible mistake for not to know what's happening around you at those speeds.

Maldonado didn't deserve a ban from today's mistakes. Jump start was stupid, he was collected by the shunt in T1 and was therefore behind much slower Marussia. Come to think of it, Maldonado probably made the same mistake with Glock as Webber did with Kovalainen at Valencia 2010. But apparently the data from the accident or Pastor's track record with collisions made the stewards to give a penalty from that incident. The rules says that a DT-penalty that driver avoids because of a retirement will be replaced with a grid penalty to next race is a stupid rule that needs to be adjusted. If you cause collision and make other driver to also retire, then it makes sense. But for a jump start it doesn't.

All in all, I think a race ban is going to be given for Maldonado if he screws up at Monza.

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I have mixed feelings about Grosjean's 1 race ban. Obviously no driver causes a pileup on purpose, and it's merely bad luck that other cars get involved as well. Hadn't happened in Sepang or Abu Dhabi. And it's not a valid argument that accident "was potentially dangerous"; it usually is. Besides, did they ban Jordan drivers in Monza 2000 or Ralf or Jacques in Australia 2001, where their reckless action actually led to the death of a person?
Well, given it's highly rare punishment, I don't think they start giving more bans whenever a driver is found guilty of a pileup. Plus I don't think a ban will decrease the risk of another pileup in the future. So another mayhem at Singapore.

These drivers did not hit other drivers every race, that's quite a difference. Of course this crash is only worth a grid penalty, but since it is Grosjean who was involved in so many start accidents this year the FIA is right to give him a break to rethink his behaviour.

It is a South American, I'll find the article that confirms it.

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I was actually refering to such things he used to do in GP2. He's been doing these silly mistakes throughout his career. I also don't blame Romain in Melbourne or Monaco either. His mistake in Sepang against Schumacher was stupid but only harmed one car and wasn't specially dangerous, just as is the typical case with Maldonado, but today he ended with the races of at least 4 cars.

My memory is not very good but wasn't Grosjean also the main responsible for the big crash at Spa in 2009?

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Button and Hamilton blamed him but that accident was Button's fault. He did the same to Grosjean as Grosjean did to Lewis today.

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Yeah, I know he's mad and I don't care. I do not care. I did not care then. I do not care now. I'm here to race him.

Grosjean was involved in Spa 2009 but I can't specifically remember if he was at fault or not.

As for the mistakes in GP2 I remember a few but some were his doing some weren't. But then again almost every other junior racer makes mistakes, does silly things. Maldonado (again, sorry to labour my point) was doing the same in FR3.5 and GP2. Same with Hamilton in FR2.0, F3 and GP2.

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